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Postby dabadone on Tue Jul 01, 2003 12:55 pm

well, i am about to purchase this stuff but i must admit im rather nervous.
http://www.arcticsilver.com/arctic_silv ... ctions.htm
^i have this as a guide

now i do plan on experimenting w/ overclocking, but im new to this (like my other threads indicate)

if i dont do this, how badly will it effect me?
is this really that difficult to do or am i just a skerry berry?

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Postby tazdevl on Tue Jul 01, 2003 1:14 pm

If you're going to buy some... purchase their new product called Ceramique. It offers the best performance and isn't eletrically conductive like AS 2 and 3. The benefit here is that if you get some accidentally where it isn't supposed to be, it won't short anything out.

Putting it on is easy, follow the guide and you should have no problems.

One thing to remember is that the performance will get better after about 72-96 hours. It takes a bit of time for it to settle in. I'd recommend leaving your computer on for a few days before you attempt to overclock.

I use the edge of a credit card or piece of paper to smooth it across the die to ensure the coat is even and thin.

You want this stuff to be as thin as possible to ensure enough contact but not be so thick that it affects thermal xfer properties.
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Postby dabadone on Tue Jul 01, 2003 1:58 pm

i got the antec reference silver thermal compound from best buy for about $10
i dont have RAM for my system yet (last thing i need to buy)
but i want to start this tonight, can i put apply the compound and just let it sit around for a bit..
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Postby aviationwiz on Tue Jul 01, 2003 2:36 pm

You should have gotten Arctic Silver, it works better than any other Thermal Compound.
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Postby tazdevl on Tue Jul 01, 2003 3:44 pm

dabadone wrote:i got the antec reference silver thermal compound from best buy for about $10
i dont have RAM for my system yet (last thing i need to buy)
but i want to start this tonight, can i put apply the compound and just let it sit around for a bit..


You can, but computer has to be on for it to settle. You need the heat to burn it in.

As aviation and I both mentioned, if you want the best (which can be 2-5 degrees celsius difference in temps) you want to use Arctic Silver Ceramique. Those 5 degrees can be difference your system being more stable when overclocked.

You can get a tube for $5.
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduct.a ... 14&order=1

You can also check crazypc.com, coolerguys.com, heatsinkfactory.com, sidewindercomputers.com, directron.com, plycon.com etc...
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Postby CignaXI on Tue Jul 01, 2003 6:00 pm

Like many have already said go with Arctic Silver Ceramique is cheaper than AS3 and better. If you are planning to use this on a amd cpu you should know that AS3 voids its warranty because it is electrical conductive. Ceramique ain't. I have found that using voided checks is percfect for spreading the compound on the HS. For the cpu I use credit card like card, maybe a blade will do better but the credit card is fine. It should be clean else it will affect the heat transfer.
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Postby Inertia on Tue Jul 01, 2003 6:22 pm

I'm not trying to talk anyone out of using thermal compounds (greases), but be aware that this will void your AMD processor warranty.

See Using Thermal Grease with AMD Processors Voids Warranties.
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Postby blakerwry on Wed Jul 02, 2003 4:36 am

as long as you don't do anything stupid AMD will take it back (this is fact and reality)

AMD has taken this stance, I assume, so that if somebody uses grease improperly (ie instead of a CPU you have a CP-OOOZE) then they can say that they will not accept the CPU.
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Postby blakerwry on Wed Jul 02, 2003 4:38 am

by the way, there's less than 1-2C temp difference between AS and the Antec silver... AS is not the best grease, but it is good... certainly nothing magical about it.
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Postby tazdevl on Wed Jul 02, 2003 5:20 am

blakerwry wrote:by the way, there's less than 1-2C temp difference between AS and the Antec silver... AS is not the best grease, but it is good... certainly nothing magical about it.


I'd disagree, I've been through 6 different componds for experimentation's sake. AS has yielded the best results by far for me and funny enough it's always on the top in heatsink compound reviews.

I'd be interested to see where you get your info from.

My point was that there can be as I said up to a 5 degree C difference between a poor and decent quality thermal compound.

Regarding AMD and warranty issues, you are correct. As long as you aren't a meathead and get regular AS on the bridges or at the base of the pins (how you'd do that is beyond me) AMD will honor your warranty.
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Postby dabadone on Wed Jul 02, 2003 10:20 am

again, thanks for all the info..
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and NOT the Polysynthetic

i'll let ya guys know what happens
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Postby blakerwry on Tue Jul 15, 2003 3:05 pm

The Shin etsu has always beaten artic silver in any test I've ever seen. And, coincidentally, it is the only grease that AMD recomends.
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Postby dabadone on Tue Jul 15, 2003 5:49 pm

ok, i put the stuff on last week.
not sure if i did it perfect, but im guessin good enough

it says my cpu is at about 102/103*

is that too hot?? :-?
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Postby blakerwry on Tue Jul 15, 2003 7:52 pm

dabadone wrote:ok, i put the stuff on last week.
not sure if i did it perfect, but im guessin good enough

it says my cpu is at about 102/103*

is that too hot?? :-?


no, that's pretty cool... 120F is about where I run my CPUs (I lower the cooling till the CPU hits ~50C) This way I have a quiet system and a decently cool running CPU.

60C, or about 140F, is considered the general point at which most CPUs becomes too hot to function stable.
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