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In House Review - MSI CR52-M 52/32/52 CD-RW

Postby Ian on Tue Sep 30, 2003 10:54 am

Today we bring you a review of MSI's newest CD-RW, the CR52-M. Featuring some of the fastest speeds currently available, the CR52-M reads and writes at 52x and is the first drive from MSI to rewrite at 32x. Of course MSI's new drive isn't just about speed. This budget priced writer also has features like SuperLink buffer underrun protection, support for the Mt. Rainier format and some of the nicest looking LED's we've seen.

In this review we take a look at some of the features found on the CR52-M and then put it up against some of the new 52x writers from companies like OptoRite and Lite-On. Does the CR52-M deliver the features and performance you'd expect from a company like MSI? You'll have to check out the review to find out.

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Postby Scour on Wed Oct 01, 2003 9:00 am

Hello!

Again a nice review, Ian.

Seems to be another good drive from MSI. But is it still an OptoRite-OEM like my CR52-A2? The CR52-A2 has a Sanyo-chipset, not a MediaTek
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Postby Ian on Wed Oct 01, 2003 9:58 am

No, this drive is all MSI.

CR52-M - M for MSI
CR52-A2 - A2 for Accesstek/Optorite
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Postby Scour on Wed Oct 01, 2003 3:43 pm

Hello!

MSI make their own drives? Not bad ;)
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Postby Ian on Wed Oct 01, 2003 4:32 pm

It's not their first. They also designed that 16x DVD-ROM, the MS-8216M.
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Postby vsekh on Wed Oct 01, 2003 8:26 pm

I like the media compatibility with this drive.
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Postby zepper on Fri Oct 03, 2003 11:00 pm

This CDRW is not made by MSI. It is just another rebadged, cosmetically altered (enhanced?), LiteOn. I was wondering why no mention was made of that in the article when it is so obvious and that what drives MSI used to rebadge were mentioned. It's the same with MSI's DVD ROM - LiteOn too...
. Hey you reviewers! You should be more aware of such things than your audience. Else why should we bother?
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Postby motocoke on Sat Oct 04, 2003 12:03 am

zepper wrote:This CDRW is not made by MSI. It is just another rebadged, cosmetically altered (enhanced?), LiteOn. I was wondering why no mention was made of that in the article when it is so obvious and that what drives MSI used to rebadge were mentioned. It's the same with MSI's DVD ROM - LiteOn too...
. Hey you reviewers! You should be more aware of such things than your audience. Else why should we bother?
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If the CR52-M is a rebadged Lite-On, then I'm a rebadged George Clooney!

I have the CR52-M and it resembles nothing like a Lite-On. The SONY, Acer, TDK drives are rebadged Lite-Ons. If you compare them, their similarities are so obvious. Same single button, same LEDs. The firmware is also worlds apart from MSI's. The MSI is a totally different drive!

I had the MSI DVD-ROM (MS-8216M). That is not a very good drive. It couldn't even read fairly clean discs properly. Lite-On LTD-165/166 on the other hand are very good readers. Again there are no similarities.

The MSI drive before that was based on a Pioneer DVD-500M.


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Postby Ian on Sat Oct 04, 2003 12:12 am

I have to agree with motocoke here. MSI has used OptoRite and BenQ designs in the past, but never Lite-On.

motocoke, I didn't know Acer was using Lite-On too. Then again, I haven't used one of their drives in ages.
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Postby CDRecorder on Sat Oct 04, 2003 2:06 am

Yes, it seems that Acer is selling Lite-On drives. Check out Newegg's stock of Acer drives. Strangely, they all say "Seamless Link" in the descriptions, but the drives in the photos are clearly made by Lite-On, and the labels on the drives say "Acer" on them.
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Postby VEFF on Sat Oct 04, 2003 2:13 am

Wow; I didn't know Acer was still making CD-RW drives.
I thought Acer was bought out by Benq?

Actually I just googled it, and found that some products are called "Acer Benq" (i.e. share the names of both companies).

Maybe the merchants (like newegg) advertising it as Acer are trading on the Acer name's bigger recognition, or does Acer still exist without the Benq name attached to everything?
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Postby CDRecorder on Sat Oct 04, 2003 2:19 am

Yeah, I was quite surprised a few months ago when I saw a photo of an Acer 52x CD-RW drive that was clearly made by Lite-On. I thought that Benq was part of Acer (or something like that) and that it took over Acer's optical drive operation.

I think that Acer still exists without Benq's name; for example, I think that there are still Acer-branded computers available. I didn't think that Acer still made optical drives, though, until I saw these Acer / Lite-On drives.
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Postby Bhairav on Sat Oct 04, 2003 5:39 am

True. Acer split it's computing divisions into Benq (Bringing Enjoyment And Quality To Life :P ) and Acer. Benq for the CD-RW and DVD-ROM drive business + the CDr/RW media business, as well as their scanners.Acer still sells the PCs, laptops and PDAs. This is the first time I'm hearing of rebadged Acer optical drives though. On a side note, did you guys know that AOpen (the motherboard manufacturer) is owned by Acer?
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Postby motocoke on Sat Oct 04, 2003 11:33 am

Yes. I actually bought the Acer 52x writer and it is a Lite-On. I flashed the firmware to the Lite-On one because Acer doesn't seem to issue updates frequently for the drive.

The other Lite-On based drive under the Acer brand is their CDRW Combo drive - based on the Lite-On LTC-48161H combo.

Yes, AOpen is (Acer-Open). I opened an old Pentium Acer PC and saw that the motherboard was an AOpen.
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Postby Ian on Sat Oct 04, 2003 11:33 am

Actually, BenQ doesn't do the media either. Another subsidiary called "Daxon Technology, Inc" does that.

If I remember right, Acer and BenQ were having some legal squabbles a few months back. Can't remember what about though.
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Postby CDRecorder on Sat Oct 04, 2003 1:54 pm

motocoke wrote:Yes, AOpen is (Acer-Open). I opened an old Pentium Acer PC and saw that the motherboard was an AOpen.


Interesting; AOpen's optical drives are entirely different than the Benq or the Acer (Lite-On) drives! I wonder why all three companies don't use a similar drive design?
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Postby zepper on Sat Oct 04, 2003 5:07 pm

Yes, the MSI IS LiteOn! The metal casing is identical - only LiteOn makes that short box. Only difference is MSI had them do a custom front for market differentiation. If I'm not right, I'll eat any MSI drive you send to me. :wink:
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Postby CDRecorder on Sat Oct 04, 2003 5:54 pm

I actually have other optical drives that have a very short case like the Lite-On 52327S that aren't made by Lite-On.

Check out these pictures:

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Notice that the headphone connector and the emergency eject hole are in different spots and that the Lite-On has one button and one LED while the MSI has two buttons and two LEDs.

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The back of the MSI drive is different from the Lite-On, too. Note that the small block of pins which aren't normally used are in different places. Edit: Actually, none of the connectors are in exactly the same places.

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The top and side of the Lite-On drive looks very different from the MSI, too. Edit: Note the number of "dents" in the top of the drive and the small cut-out on the side of the Lite-On.

Basically, my point is that the MSI and Lite-On have so many physical differences that Lite-On would have had to have significantly re-designed the drive if they had made the MSI drive. This is why I don't think they're the same.
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Postby Ian on Sat Oct 04, 2003 6:19 pm

zepper, where did you hear that they are the same?
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Postby pranav81 on Sun Oct 05, 2003 1:07 am

Well guys,I too had thought that MSI had designed this drive themselves.Now I dont know if it's a rebadged Lite-On.But from CD-Recorder's post I do think again that MSI itself has designed that drive.
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Postby Scour on Sun Oct 05, 2003 3:28 pm

Ian wrote:It's not their first. They also designed that 16x DVD-ROM, the MS-8216M.


I heard rumors that it was a Benq?
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Postby Scour on Wed Oct 22, 2003 11:25 am

Hello!

@Ian:

I´m looking for this drive and have a question about the MSI. Does the drive slowdown when it writes, like drives like LG and Plextor or burns it with high speed til the end of the disc?
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Postby Ian on Wed Oct 22, 2003 11:52 am

Scour wrote:I heard rumors that it was a Benq?


No their other one was a BenQ though.

I'm not sure what you're asking about the writing speed.
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Postby Scour on Wed Oct 22, 2003 1:54 pm

Hello Ian!

When I was able to choose 52x writing speed, does the writer burn this media at 52x or slows it the speed down at middle or end of the disc to 48x, 40x, 32x or lower? It doesn´t matter when the writer does it one time when i burn 100 disc´s, but i hate it, when the writer slows down at the end of every disc or often (like the Samsung at the review from CD-Freaks)
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Postby Ian on Wed Oct 22, 2003 2:17 pm

I didn't notice any slow downs when testing it. If I remember right, it lets you choose 52x for all media and adjusts the speed before it starts writing.
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