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Postby Derek on Mon Jan 06, 2003 10:48 pm

Honda needs to get off their high horse and build a V-8 for consumer cars already...

I own a Honda, its completely stock, and I never plan to do anything to it. It's not fast, it's not slow. It's just reliable and nice.

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Postby BuddhaTB on Mon Jan 06, 2003 11:36 pm

Derek wrote:Honda needs to get off their high horse and build a V-8 for consumer cars already...

There have been rumors that the next generation NSX will feature a V-8 engine producing around 400 HP. Honda is still pretty much tight lipped about the future of the NSX and whether a V-8 or a hybrid design will be used. However, the next NSX will be influenced by how well Honda does in F1 racing and what other Japanese companies are doing in terms of sports cars and their powertrains. If a V-8 powered NSX actually becomes reality, Honda will also detune the NSX's engine a slight bit and use it in their Acura division for the TL series of cars.

Honda has no real interest in building a V-8 other than to power the NSX. Honda would rather focus R&D on developing cleaner running engines that yield higher gas mileage. Honda's main goal is to build the cleanest running cars that produce the lowest amount of emissions.
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Postby F1Pilot on Tue Jan 07, 2003 6:15 am

OMFG! A V8? That's it...I'm telling the wife...NO HOUSE! I'm there! LOL!

Sounds like the car would be awesome!
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Postby BuddhaTB on Tue Jan 07, 2003 8:47 pm

Check out the New Subaru WRX STi For North America. Awesome car and Japan is finally bringing over some kick ass toys. :D
http://www.speedoptions.com/articles/3284/
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Postby F1Pilot on Tue Jan 07, 2003 9:48 pm

Heya BuddhaTB...

You're probably one of the best people to ask. Have you heard of the Cizeta Moroder (sp?)? Got any pics and specs on it? I think they had developed a V16 for it or something.
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Postby BuddhaTB on Tue Jan 07, 2003 10:40 pm

Here's the info you requested on the Cizeta-Moroder V16T. It kinda looks like an early Lamborghini Diablo Concept.
http://www.giorgiomorodergallery.com/mo ... izeta.html
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If your looking for super cars with 16-cylinder engines, check out the Bugatti EB 16/4 Veyron. It uses a W-16 engine that produces 1,001 HP with the help of 4 turbo-chargers.
http://www.fantasycars.com/derek/cars/164veyron.html
http://www.auto-salon-singen.de/Bugatti_Veyron_e.htm
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Postby eliminator on Tue Jan 07, 2003 11:48 pm

BuddhaTB wrote:Check out the New Subaru WRX STi For North America. Awesome car and Japan is finally bringing over some kick ass toys. :D
http://www.speedoptions.com/articles/3284/
http://impreza.subaru.com/microsites/im ... wrxsti.jsp
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too bad it's a 4 door ! :wink:
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Postby BuddhaTB on Wed Jan 08, 2003 12:20 am

eliminator wrote:
too bad it's a 4 door ! :wink:

Doesn't matter. Three of your friends can also experience the fun of 300HP on AWD. Rally time for 4 people :wink:
In addition, your insurance premiums should be lower with a 4-door car.
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Postby eliminator on Wed Jan 08, 2003 12:38 am

true... but I still love my coupe !!
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Postby F1Pilot on Wed Jan 08, 2003 4:31 am

Sweet post, BuddhaTB! I THINK the Cizeta was made by a former Bull employee (or something like that).

As far as the Bugatti goes, I saw one of those on the road one time, although it didn't look like that. Not that I recall, at least. :-? Maybe it was an older design? Pretty cool, though!

Anyone seen that new motorcycle that came out? It uses a Dodge Viper engine. Insane, I tell ya.
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Postby dodecahedron on Wed Jan 08, 2003 3:46 pm

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Postby BuddhaTB on Wed Jan 08, 2003 6:56 pm

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Postby dodecahedron on Thu Jan 09, 2003 1:09 am

BuddhaTB wrote:Image
My Precious :wink:

hmm...your secret msn messenger code surfaces....
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Postby Bhairav on Tue Jan 14, 2003 12:52 am

Have you guys seen the new Lamborghini Murcielago? I think it rocks! Fast,sexy and did I say fast??!!
On the other hand... the Ferrari Enzo (F60) looks like it swallowed something nasty.....
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Postby BuddhaTB on Tue Jan 14, 2003 2:07 am

bhairavp wrote:Have you guys seen the new Lamborghini Murcielago? I think it rocks! Fast,sexy and did I say fast??!!
On the other hand... the Ferrari Enzo (F60) looks like it swallowed something nasty.....

You got that all wrong. I saw the Ferrari Enzo up close while at the LA Auto Show and it is a thing of beauty and elegance. I guess its a hit or miss with the Enzo, but its just an awesome super car. No doubt the Lamborghini Murcelago looks nice and goes fast. However Ferrari's cars are more of a thing of beauty and much more driveable than the Lamborghini cars. I'm more of a Ferrari person myself, so its a biased statement. But I do agree that both Ferrari and Lamborghini are the top of their class and nothing comes close to the beauty, power, or status symbol one gets when driving a Ferrari or Lamborghini around.
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Postby BuddhaTB on Fri Jan 17, 2003 8:16 pm

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Ladies and Gentlemen, place your bets. Who's going to win this three car battle. :D
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Postby Robotnik on Mon Feb 03, 2003 6:30 am

Can we talk about any import car here?

This is the (General Motors Australia) Holden Monaro. Powered by a 5.7L 315hp LS1 V8, this car is set to be the replacement for the Camaro/Firebird in the US in Sept 2004, where it will be known as the Pontiac GTO. It comes with an optional six speed manual and unlike the F-bodies it replaces, has a full multi-link independent rear suspension. In the US, the engine output will also be uprated to 340hp, expected 0-62mph times should be under six seconds. :o


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Postby F1Pilot on Mon Feb 03, 2003 2:55 pm

Wow! That Holden Monaro is pretty cool. I don't care much for the way the back looks, but it's still pretty sweet!
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Postby BuddhaTB on Mon Feb 03, 2003 7:23 pm

Robotnik, could you cut down on the pics next time. It took them awhile to load for me and I'm using cable modem. 2-3 pics will suffice next time.

I'm not a fan of American cars, so not going to comment much on it. The LS1 engine is pretty nice and I'm not too sure how well sales of this car will do in the U.S., when Camaro and Firebird sales were really declining the past few years. This car follows the muscle car mold, in which a big powerful V-8 is used for the powerplant. This car takes a big pass from me.
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Postby Ian on Mon Feb 03, 2003 8:08 pm

F1Pilot wrote:Wow! That Holden Monaro is pretty cool. I don't care much for the way the back looks, but it's still pretty sweet!


I have to agree. The front reminds me of the Mazda 6, but the back half looks like they took it off of a Malibu or some old fart car.

Speaking of V8's in Jap cars. Did you hear that Toyota is getting into NASCAR in 2004? Not that I watch NASCAR, but I thought it was interesting. I guess the hill billy Americans aren't buying enough Toyotas.
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Postby Robotnik on Mon Feb 03, 2003 8:22 pm

BuddhaTB wrote:Robotnik, could you cut down on the pics next time. It took them awhile to load for me and I'm using cable modem. 2-3 pics will suffice next time..


Hehehe, ok will do.

BuddhaTB wrote:I'm not a fan of American cars, so not going to comment much on it. The LS1 engine is pretty nice and I'm not too sure how well sales of this car will do in the U.S., when Camaro and Firebird sales were really declining the past few years. This car follows the muscle car mold, in which a big powerful V-8 is used for the powerplant. This car takes a big pass from me.


There's nothing wrong with a muscle car as far as I'm concerned. Sure car makers like Honda use small displacement, high revving, variable valve timing engines to create power and some may consider that more advanced. Whereas the Monaro uses "old-fashioned" push-rods and lots of cubic inches to generate its power, but the LS1 is a light weight all alloy construction, which makes it advanced in its own way, it is not like the Monaro is steam powered or something!
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Postby BuddhaTB on Mon Feb 03, 2003 8:52 pm

Robotnik, are those pics of the pre-prodcution model or the production model? I'm just wondering because the interior of the car looks really nice and better than anything GM has put out in a long time.
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Postby BuddhaTB on Mon Feb 03, 2003 9:13 pm

Check out this Toyota Altezza (Lexus IS 300 in the U.S.) tuned by HKS. It features a full carbon fiber body and a specially built engine. Check out the specs and article.
The HKS Altezza is rated at 600 hp at 8,000 rpm and an even more impressive 450 lb-ft of torque at 6,000. It weighs around 2,000 pounds. Making it a very fast car. Power comes from a turbocharged Inline-6. The same base engine found in the IS 300.
http://www.superstreetonline.com/featur ... les/15500/

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Postby Robotnik on Mon Feb 03, 2003 9:36 pm

BuddhaTB wrote:Robotnik, are those pics of the pre-prodcution model or the production model? I'm just wondering because the interior of the car looks really nice and better than anything GM has put out in a long time.


That's a production car, with the standard leather interior. The car has been available for sale in Australia and New Zealand for more that a year now.
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Postby F1Pilot on Tue Feb 04, 2003 1:48 pm

BuddhaTB wrote:Check out this Toyota Altezza (Lexus IS 300 in the U.S.) tuned by HKS. It features a full carbon fiber body and a specially built engine. Check out the specs and article.
The HKS Altezza is rated at 600 hp at 8,000 rpm and an even more impressive 450 lb-ft of torque at 6,000. It weighs around 2,000 pounds. Making it a very fast car. Power comes from a turbocharged Inline-6. The same base engine found in the IS 300.
http://www.superstreetonline.com/featur ... les/15500/

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Holy Smack! That's sweet! I test drove a "regular" IS 300 at Laguna Seca...sweet car as is. I can't image what a drive like the HKS would be like. Damn. Still, I want my Zanardi NSX...someday. 8)
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