I'm taking the rest of these back to staples. The quality control on these is all over the map In a controled burn using all the same settings and software, I'll get quality scans that are like night and day. I burned 9 discs. one flat out coaster(wouldn't burn second layer) 3 dics with scans in the 40's a scan at 70, a 90, 93, 93, 95. I have a BenQ 1620, and a plextor 716A, using nero sofware to burn. Comp usa has the Verbatim 3 pk for $11.99 pm to staples for an extra $1.30 off. It comes to about $.90 more a disc. Well worth it from the reviews on dvdrhelp.