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Nero 6 Backitup Why 4+hrs for incremental backup?

Postby vstice on Wed Jan 18, 2006 8:34 pm

Did one full backup of partitions C: thru H: with verify
to DVD+R. Worked fine. Took just 1hr33mins to 4 DVD+Rs (8x)

After a few days, did a "Modify Backup" for the above
full backup, choosing "Incremental."

This was to a blank DVD+RW.

Compression is OFF.

The backup worked, verified OK (with a few glitches on the
windows partition), BUT (and this is a VERY BIG BUT)

the initial phase of the backup, where it is
"Calculating backup size" took more than 4 hours.

The full backup was about 13GB to 4 DVD+Rs, and the
".nbi" file was about 30MB and was the HDD copy, and
the backup size eventually calculated was a mere 139MB
or so.

I was running no other applications, no active anti-viral
software. I had recently done a virus scan with F-PROT,
a spy-ware scan using just updated AdAware and SpyBot
software, and had just done a re-boot.

I tried again the following day.
It was still very slow doing the backup size thing.
I ran Windows system monitor and saw the CPU was at 100%,
with very little HDD read/write activity.
I ran WinTop and saw, as expected, that Backitup was using
94+% CPU.

Anybody know what the blazes is taking so long? Even a scripting
language like Python could read all directories, match them against
a file like .nbi for file needing backup, and do it faster.

My system is Win98SE, with all critical updates from MS,
Dell Optiplex GX1, PIII (slotted) 450MHz, with 128MB of PC100 Mem
(ECC).

The only mechanism I can think of, which could cause this process to
be so slow is:

Every file is checked against the .nbi (in this case 30MB in size)
via a brute force linear search, with absolutely no optimizations
which could speed it up, such as:
Search filnames in same sequence as .nbi, remembering last pos in .nbi.
Sort filenames in .nbi and do binary search.
Build hash table of filenames in .nbi.

Any of the above optimizations could improve the search times by at least
a factor of 1000.

Even with the current crop is 2-4GHz CPUs, and PC2700+ mem,
the much larger HDDs and numbers of files would justify doing
one of the above optimizations!

Note: The full backup of partitions c: e: f: g: h: (e: is the swap partition),
took only 1hr33mins, for 5935 folders, 111668 files totaling 13.59GB, and used
4 DVD+Rs.
The incremental backup took 4hrs18min (to DVD+RW) for about 1100 files
totaling just 130MB.

This works out to a glacial 0.13+ seconds, on avgerage, for each file!

I have included the log file produced by backitup and by InfoTool.

Thanks,

Verne Tice

Nero BackItUp : 1.2.0.60
[ Backup Process ]
Backup name:CHFullInc1
Created by:Pentium System
Backup date:1/13/06 6:19:29 PM

=========================================================


Windows 98 4.10
IA32
WinAspi: File 'Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=4.71 (0001), size=45056 bytes, created 8/14/02 3:03:36 PM
ahead WinASPI: File 'C:\APPLS\CD\Ahead\Nero\Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=2.0.1.74, size=164112 bytes, created 10/26/04 5:35:34 PM
Nero API version: 6.6.0.18
Using interface version: 6.6.0.8
Installed in: C:\APPLS\CD\Ahead\Nero\
Application: Ahead\Nero BackItUp
Internal Version: 6, 6, 0, 18e

Recorder: <_NEC DVD_RW ND-3550A> Version: 1.05 - HA 0 TA 0 - 6.6.0.18
Adapter driver: <ESDI_506> HA 0
Drive buffer : 2048kB
Bus Type : default (0) -> ATAPI, detected: ATAPI
_NEC DVD_RW ND-3550A (Target 0, U:): Autoinsert Off, DMA On, Disconnect On, SyncDataXfer Off
Excluded drive IDs:
WriteBufferSize: 24117248 (0) Byte
ShowDrvBufStat : 0
BUFE : 0
Physical memory : 127MB (130344kB)
Free physical memory: 1MB (1932kB)
Memory in use : 100 %
Uncached PFiles: 0x0
Use Inquiry : 1
Global Bus Type: default (0)
Check supported media : Disabled (0)

13.1.2006
NeroAPI
10:35:58 PM #1 SCSI -1065 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1182
SCSI Exec, HA 0, TA 0, LUN 0, buffer 0x043F0400
Status: 0x04 (0x01, SCSI_ERR)
HA-Status 0x00 (0x00, OK)
TA-Status 0x02 (0x01, SCSI_TASTATUS_CHKCOND)
Sense Key: 0x05 (KEY_ILLEGAL_REQUEST)
Sense Code: 0x20
Sense Qual: 0x00
CDB Data: 0xFA 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x06 0x00 0x00 0x00
Sense Data: 0x70 0x00 0x05 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x0A
0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x20 0x00

10:35:58 PM #2 SCSI -1065 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1182
SCSI Exec, HA 0, TA 0, LUN 0, buffer 0x043F0400
Status: 0x04 (0x01, SCSI_ERR)
HA-Status 0x00 (0x00, OK)
TA-Status 0x02 (0x01, SCSI_TASTATUS_CHKCOND)
Sense Key: 0x05 (KEY_ILLEGAL_REQUEST)
Sense Code: 0x20
Sense Qual: 0x00
CDB Data: 0xFA 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x06 0x00 0x00 0x00
Sense Data: 0x70 0x00 0x05 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x0A
0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x20 0x00

10:35:58 PM #3 Text 0 File Reader.cpp, Line 127
Reader running

10:35:58 PM #4 Text 0 File Writer.cpp, Line 122
Writer _NEC DVD_RW ND-3550A running

10:35:58 PM #5 Text 0 File AudioCompilationImpl.cpp, Line 842
DRM: StartDrmRecording(RealRec:1, ImageRec:0, Copies:1)
DRM: Beginning burn process.

10:35:58 PM #6 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3309
First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

10:35:59 PM #7 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3233
Turn on Disc-At-Once, using DVD media

10:35:59 PM #8 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 270
Last possible write address on media: 2295103 (510:01.28, 4482MB)
Last address to be written: 82159 ( 18:15.34, 160MB)

10:35:59 PM #9 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 282
Write in overburning mode: NO

10:35:59 PM #10 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 2483
Recorder: _NEC DVD_RW ND-3550A, Media type: DVD+RW

10:35:59 PM #11 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 448
>>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<<
=========================================

10:35:59 PM #12 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 838
Setup items (after recorder preparation)
0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 ()
2 indices, index0 (150) not provided
original disc pos #0 + 82160 (82160) = #82160/18:15.35
relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/ required, no patch infos
-> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 82160 blocks [_NEC DVD_RW ND-3550A]
--------------------------------------------------------------

10:35:59 PM #13 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1051
Prepare recorder [_NEC DVD_RW ND-3550A] for write in CUE-sheet-DAO
DAO infos:
==========
MCN: ""
TOCType: 0x00; Session Closed, disc not fixated
Tracks 1 to 1:
1: TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x00, FilePos 0 0 168263680, ISRC ""
DAO layout:
===========
__Start_|____Track_|_Idx_|_CtrlAdr_|_RecDep__________
0 | lead-in | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
0 | 1 | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
0 | 1 | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00
82160 | lead-out | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00

10:35:59 PM #14 Phase 24 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 276
Caching of files started

10:35:59 PM #15 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 4122
Cache writing successful.

10:35:59 PM #16 Phase 25 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 276
Caching of files completed

10:35:59 PM #17 Phase 36 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 276
Burn process started at 4x (5,540 KB/s)

10:35:59 PM #18 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2661
Verifying disc position of item 0 (relocatable, disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0

10:35:59 PM #19 SCSI -1066 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1182
SCSI Exec, HA 0, TA 0, LUN 0, buffer 0x042E5400
Status: 0x04 (0x01, SCSI_ERR)
HA-Status 0x00 (0x00, OK)
TA-Status 0x02 (0x01, SCSI_TASTATUS_CHKCOND)
Sense Key: 0x05 (KEY_ILLEGAL_REQUEST)
Sense Code: 0x24
Sense Qual: 0x00
CDB Data: 0xAD 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x08 0x04 0x00 0x00
Sense Data: 0x70 0x00 0x05 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x0A
0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x24 0x00

10:35:59 PM #20 SCSI -1065 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1182
SCSI Exec, HA 0, TA 0, LUN 0, buffer 0x043F0400
Status: 0x04 (0x01, SCSI_ERR)
HA-Status 0x00 (0x00, OK)
TA-Status 0x02 (0x01, SCSI_TASTATUS_CHKCOND)
Sense Key: 0x05 (KEY_ILLEGAL_REQUEST)
Sense Code: 0x20
Sense Qual: 0x00
CDB Data: 0xFA 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x06 0x00 0x00 0x00
Sense Data: 0x70 0x00 0x05 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x0A
0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x20 0x00

10:35:59 PM #21 SCSI -1065 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1182
SCSI Exec, HA 0, TA 0, LUN 0, buffer 0x043F0400
Status: 0x04 (0x01, SCSI_ERR)
HA-Status 0x00 (0x00, OK)
TA-Status 0x02 (0x01, SCSI_TASTATUS_CHKCOND)
Sense Key: 0x05 (KEY_ILLEGAL_REQUEST)
Sense Code: 0x20
Sense Qual: 0x00
CDB Data: 0xFA 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x06 0x00 0x00 0x00
Sense Data: 0x70 0x00 0x05 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x0A
0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x20 0x00

10:35:59 PM #22 Phase 98 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 276
Start formatting disc before burning

10:36:41 PM #23 Phase 100 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 276
Formatting disc was successful

10:36:41 PM #24 Text 0 File DVDPlusRW.cpp, Line 659
Start write address at LBA 0
DVD high compatibility mode: No

10:37:01 PM #25 WINPFILE 32 File winpfile.cpp, Line 274
The process cannot access the file because
it is being used by another process.

C:\WINDOWS\History\History.IE5\index.dat

10:37:01 PM #26 WINPFILE 32 File winpfile.cpp, Line 274
The process cannot access the file because
it is being used by another process.

C:\WINDOWS\Cookies\index.dat

10:37:01 PM #27 WINPFILE 32 File winpfile.cpp, Line 274
The process cannot access the file because
it is being used by another process.

C:\WINDOWS\Temporary Internet Files\Content.IE5\index.dat

10:37:13 PM #28 Text 0 File WriterStatus.cpp, Line 116
<_NEC DVD_RW ND-3550A > start writing Lead-Out at LBA 82160 (140F0h), lenght 0 blocks

10:37:13 PM #29 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 228
all writers idle, stopping conversion

10:37:14 PM #30 Text 0 File DVDPlusRW.cpp, Line 883
Media-Format will be stopped after burning

10:37:14 PM #31 Phase 133 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 276
Writing short lead-out

10:37:43 PM #32 SCSI -1065 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1182
SCSI Exec, HA 0, TA 0, LUN 0, buffer 0x043F0400
Status: 0x04 (0x01, SCSI_ERR)
HA-Status 0x00 (0x00, OK)
TA-Status 0x02 (0x01, SCSI_TASTATUS_CHKCOND)
Sense Key: 0x05 (KEY_ILLEGAL_REQUEST)
Sense Code: 0x20
Sense Qual: 0x00
CDB Data: 0xFA 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x06 0x00 0x00 0x00
Sense Data: 0x70 0x00 0x05 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x0A
0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x20 0x00

10:37:43 PM #33 SCSI -1065 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1182
SCSI Exec, HA 0, TA 0, LUN 0, buffer 0x043F0400
Status: 0x04 (0x01, SCSI_ERR)
HA-Status 0x00 (0x00, OK)
TA-Status 0x02 (0x01, SCSI_TASTATUS_CHKCOND)
Sense Key: 0x05 (KEY_ILLEGAL_REQUEST)
Sense Code: 0x20
Sense Qual: 0x00
CDB Data: 0xFA 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x06 0x00 0x00 0x00
Sense Data: 0x70 0x00 0x05 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x0A
0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x20 0x00

10:37:43 PM #34 Phase 161 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 276
Burn process completed successfully with warnings

10:37:43 PM #35 Phase 78 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 276
Data verification started

10:38:04 PM #36 WINPFILE 32 File winpfile.cpp, Line 274
The process cannot access the file because
it is being used by another process.

C:\WINDOWS\History\History.IE5\index.dat

10:38:04 PM #37 WINPFILE 32 File winpfile.cpp, Line 274
The process cannot access the file because
it is being used by another process.

C:\WINDOWS\Cookies\index.dat

10:38:04 PM #38 WINPFILE 32 File winpfile.cpp, Line 274
The process cannot access the file because
it is being used by another process.

C:\WINDOWS\Temporary Internet Files\Content.IE5\index.dat

10:38:11 PM #39 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 228
all writers idle, stopping conversion

10:38:11 PM #40 Phase 80 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 276
Data verification completed successfully

10:38:12 PM #41 Text 0 File AudioCompilationImpl.cpp, Line 867
DRM: DRM burn session terminated.

10:38:12 PM #42 Text 0 File AudioCompilationImpl.cpp, Line 896
DRM: Closing entire DRM handling. Bye.


Existing drivers:
File 'IoSubSys\SCSI1HLP.VXD': Ver=4.10.1998, size=19270 bytes, created 4/23/99 10:22:00 PM
File 'IoSubsys\NEROCD95.VXD': Ver=4.5.0.14, size=39882 bytes, created 3/11/02 11:55:38 AM
File 'IoSubsys\DRVWPPQT.VXD': Ver=3.10.36a, size=228223 bytes, created 4/23/99 10:22:00 PM
File 'IoSubsys\CDFS.VXD': Ver=4.10.1998, size=59133 bytes, created 4/23/99 10:22:00 PM
File 'IoSubsys\ESDI_506.PDR': Ver=4.10.2222, size=24406 bytes, created 4/23/99 10:22:00 PM
File 'ZMPROP.CPL': Ver=Version 2.0, size=33280 bytes, created 1/7/03 11:28:58 PM
File '..\System\Vmm32\Ios.vxd': Ver=4.10.2222, size=69570 bytes, created 4/23/99 10:22:00 PM
File 'IoSubsys\Disktsd.vxd': Ver=4.10.2222, size=18809 bytes, created 4/23/99 10:22:00 PM

Registry Keys:


=========================================================
10:31:15 PM Reading source path information using [None] profile. This process may take several minutes.
10:35:44 PM Incremental backup operation started
10:35:46 PM Start of checking for temporary files
10:35:47 PM Checking for temporary files completed
10:35:59 PM Caching of files started
10:35:59 PM Caching of files completed
10:35:59 PM Burn process started at 4x (5,540 KB/s)
10:35:59 PM Start formatting disc before burning
10:36:41 PM Formatting disc was successful
10:37:09 PM The process cannot access the file because
it is being used by another process.
C:\WINDOWS\History\History.IE5\index.dat
10:37:09 PM The process cannot access the file because
it is being used by another process.
C:\WINDOWS\Cookies\index.dat
10:37:09 PM The process cannot access the file because
it is being used by another process.
C:\WINDOWS\Temporary Internet Files\Content.IE5\index.dat
10:37:14 PM Writing short lead-out
10:37:43 PM Burn process completed successfully with warnings
10:37:43 PM Data verification started
10:38:09 PM The process cannot access the file because
it is being used by another process.
C:\WINDOWS\History\History.IE5\index.dat
10:38:09 PM The process cannot access the file because
it is being used by another process.
C:\WINDOWS\Cookies\index.dat
10:38:09 PM The process cannot access the file because
it is being used by another process.
C:\WINDOWS\Temporary Internet Files\Content.IE5\index.dat
10:38:11 PM Data verification completed successfully
10:38:20 PM Backup process completed successfully.


=====================================================
Nero InfoTool 3.02

Drive Information
------------------
Drive : _NEC DVD_RW ND-3550A
Type : DVD±R/RW DL Recorder
Firmware Version : 1.05
Buffer Size : 2 MB
Date : ?
Serial Number : 5X44023S211
Vendor Specific : 05093000
Drive Letter : U:\
Location : 0:0
Mechanism : Tray
Read Speed : 48 , 40 , 32 , 24 , 20 , 16 , 10 , 8 , 4 X
Write Speed : 48 , 40 , 32 , 24 , 16 , 8 X

Read CD Text : Yes
Return C2 Pointers : Yes
Read CD-R : Yes
Read CD-RW : Yes
Read DVD-ROM : Yes
Read DVD-RAM : No
Read DVD-R : Yes
Read DVD-RW : Yes
Read DVD+R : Yes
Read DVD+RW : Yes
Read DVD+R DL : Yes
Read BD-ROM : No
Read BD-R : No
Read BD-RE : No
Read Digital Audio : Yes
Read CD+G : Yes
Read VideoCD : Yes

Write CD-R : Yes
Write CD-RW : Yes
Write DVD-R : Yes
Write DVD-RW : Yes
Write DVD-R DL : Yes
Write DVD+R : Yes
Write DVD+RW : Yes
Write DVD+R DL : Yes
Write DVD-RAM : No
Write BD-R : No
Write BD-RE : No
Buffer Underrun Protection : Yes
Mount Rainier : No
Modes : Packet, TAO, DAO, SAO, RAW SAO, RAW SAO 96, RAW DAO 96

Region Protection Control : RPC II
Region : None
Changes User : 5
Changes Vendor : 4

Disc Information (U:\)
-------------------
Type : - no disc inserted -


Interface Information
---------------------
Adapter 1
---------
Description : unknown

Driver
Description : ESDI_506.pdr
Company : Microsoft Corporation
Version : 4.10.2222
Description : ESDI_506 Virtual Device (Version 4.0)

Attached Devices
Description : GENERIC IDE DISK TYPE55
Type : Disk Drive
DMA : On
Description : _NEC DVD_RW ND-3550A
Type : CD-Rom Drive
DMA : On
Autorun : Off


Software Information
--------------------
Operating System : Windows 98 SE
DirectX : DirectX 9.0c

Description : Nero Burning ROM
Version : 6, 6, 0, 18
Company : Ahead Software AG
Version Check : Ok

Description : Nero StartSmart
Version : 2, 0, 0, 28
Company : Ahead Software AG

Description : Cover Designer
Version : 2, 3, 0, 50
Company : Nero AG

Description : Nero BackItUp Application
Version : 1, 2, 0, 60
Company : Ahead Software AG

Description : InCD
Version : 4, 3, 20, 1
Company : Nero AG


Hardware Information
--------------------
CPU : 450 MHz
Bus Speed : 100 MHz
Motherboard : Dell OptiPlex GX1 450L+
System : Dell OptiPlex GX1 450L+
BIOS : Dell A10
Memory : 127 MB
Sound : CS4236/37/38
Video : RAGE PRO TURBO AGP 2X (English)

Driver Information
------------------
Driver : ESDI_506
Description : ESDI_506 Virtual Device (Version 4.0)
Version : 4.10.2222
Company : Microsoft Corporation

Driver : HSFLOP
Description : HSFLOP Virtual Device (Version 4.0)
Version : 4.10.2222
Company : Microsoft Corporation

Driver : RMM
Description : RMM Virtual Device (Version 4.0)
Version : 4.10.1998
Company : Microsoft Corporation

Driver : SCSIPORT
Description : SCSIPORT Virtual Device (Version 4.0)
Version : 4.10.2222
Company : Microsoft Corporation

Driver : ATAPCHNG
Description : ATAPCHNG Virtual Device (Version 4.0)
Version : 4.10.1998
Company : Microsoft Corporation

Driver : CDFS
Description : CDFS Virtual Device (Version 4.0)
Version : 4.10.1998
Company : Microsoft Corporation

Driver : CDTSD
Description : CDTSD Virtual Device (Version 4.0)
Version : 4.10.1998
Company : Microsoft Corporation

Driver : CDVSD
Description : CDVSD Virtual Device (Version 4.0)
Version : 4.10.2222
Company : Microsoft Corporation

Driver : DISKTSD
Description : DiskTSD Virtual Device (Version 4.0)
Version : 4.10.2222
Company : Microsoft Corporation

Driver : DISKVSD
Description : DiskVSD Virtual Device (Version 4.0)
Version : 4.10.1998
Company : Microsoft Corporation

Driver : NECATAPI
Description : NECATAPI Virtual Device (Version 4.0)
Version : 4.10.1998
Company : Microsoft Corporation

Driver : SCSI1HLP
Description : scsi1hlp Virtual Device (Version 4.0)
Version : 4.10.1998
Company : Microsoft Corporation

Driver : TORISAN3
Description : TORISAN3 Virtual Device (Version 4.0)
Version : 4.10.1998
Company : Microsoft Corporation

Driver : VOLTRACK
Description : voltrack Virtual Device (Version 4.0)
Version : 4.10.1998
Company : Microsoft Corporation

Driver : nerocd95
Description : Nero CD driver for Windows 95/98/ME
Version : 4.5.0.14
Company : ahead software gmbh
im stoeckmaedle 18
76307 karlsbad, germany
Fax: ++49-7248-911-888
e-mail: info@nero.com

Driver : d347prt
Description : SCSI port
Version : 3.47.0.0
Company :

Driver : APIX
Description : Adaptec APIX Virtual Device
Version : 4.71 (0001)
Company : Adaptec

Driver : DRVWCDB
Description : Device Driver
Version : 3.10.36a
Company : Seagate Software, Inc.

Driver : DRVWPPQT
Description : Device Driver
Version : 3.10.36a
Company : Seagate Software, Inc.

Driver : DRVWQ117
Description : Device Driver
Version : 3.10.36a
Company : Seagate Software, Inc.

Driver : MxlW9x
Description : MusicMatch Access Layer VxD
Version : 1.0.1.109
Company : MusicMatch, Inc.

Driver : MxlStack
Description : MusicMatch Access Layer Stack VxD
Version : 1.0.1.109
Company : MusicMatch, Inc.

Driver : SMARTVSD
Description : SMARTVSD Virtual Device (Version 4.0)
Version : 4.10.2222
Company : Microsoft Corporation

Driver : pxhelper
Description : Px Helper Driver for Windows 9x
Version : 1.0.7
Company : Sonic Solutions

Driver : AVGBASE
Description : Guard für Windows 9x
Version : 1.15.0.36
Company : H+BEDV Datentechnik GmbH(

Driver : VGoBackD
Description : GoBack Virtual Device
Version : 3.11.59
Company : Roxio, Inc.

Driver : imagedrv
Description : NERO IMAGEDRIVE SCSI miniport
Version : 2.29.0.0 built by: WinDDK
Company : Ahead Software AG

Driver : InCDrm
Description : InCD MRW Remapper
Version : 4, 3, 20, 1
Company : Nero AG

Driver : bsudf
Description : N/A
Version : N/A
Company : N/A

Driver : incdfs
Description : UDF Packet Writing Filesystem
Version : 4, 3, 20, 1
Company : Nero AG

Driver : incdpass
Description : N/A
Version : N/A
Company : N/A

Driver : MSVCRT.DLL
Version : 6.10.9359.0

Driver : msvcirt.dll
Version : 6.10.8637.0

Driver : mfc42.dll
Version : 6.00.8665.0

Driver : MSVCP60.DLL
Version : 6.00.8972.0

Driver : msvcr70.dll
Version : 7.00.9466.0

Driver : OLE32.DLL
Version : 4.71.2900

Driver : OLEPRO32.DLL
Version : 5.0.4518

Driver : OLEDLG.DLL
Version : 1.0

Driver : ADVAPI32.DLL
Version : 4.80.1675

Driver : COMCTL32.DLL
Version : 5.81

Driver : SETUPAPI.DLL
Version : 5.00.1671.1

Driver : aacenc32.dll
Version : 3,2,0,24b

Driver : Aiff.dll
Version : 2, 0, 1, 0

Driver : DefConvertor.dll
Version : 2, 0, 2, 0

Driver : mp3PRO.dll
Version : 2, 0, 4, 7

Driver : mp3PRO_dmo.dll
Version : 2, 0, 0, 16

Driver : mp3PRO_hlp.dll
Version : 2, 0, 0, 16

Driver : msa.dll
Version : 2, 0, 9, 37

Driver : Vqf.dll
Version : 2, 0, 1, 0

Driver : VqfDecLib.dll
Version : 2, 0, 0, 6

Driver : VqfEncLib.dll
Version : 2, 0, 0, 6

Driver : VqfEncLib1.dll
Version : 2, 0, 0, 6

Driver : TWINVQ2.CDB
Version : n/a

Driver : wav.dll
Version : 2, 0, 2, 0

Driver : Aac.dll
Version : 2, 5, 9, 991

Driver : lame_enc.dll
Version : 3, 93, 1, 0

Driver : mp3PP.dll
Version : 1, 0, 0, 9

Driver : ogg.dll
Version : 1, 0, 0, 6

Driver : aacplus.dll
Version : 3,2,0,24b

Driver : dvddisc.dll
Version : 3,2,0,24b

Driver : em2v.dll
Version : 3, 2, 0, 24b

Driver : gdiplus.dll
Version : 5.1.3102.1360 (xpsp2.040109-1800)

Driver : NDParser.ax
Version : 3,2,0,24b

Driver : NeAcEnc.dll
Version : 3,2,0,24b

Driver : NeAMR.dll
Version : 3,2,0,24b

Driver : NeAudCD.ax
Version : 3,2,0,24b

Driver : NeAudio.ax
Version : 3, 2, 0, 24b

Driver : NeAudioConv.ax
Version : 3,2,0,24b

Driver : NeCapture.ax
Version : 3, 2, 0, 24b

Driver : NeDVD.ax
Version : 3, 2, 0, 24b

Driver : NeFileSrc.ax
Version : 3,2,0,24b

Driver : NeRender.ax
Version : 3,2,0,24b

Driver : NeVideo.ax
Version : 3, 2, 0, 24b

Driver : NeQTDec.ax
Version : 3,2,0,24b

Driver : mp4file.dll
Version : 1, 0, 0, 1

Driver : NeDVSplitter.ax
Version : 3,2,0,24b

Driver : NeEm2a.dll
Version : 3,2,0,24b

Driver : NeFileSourceAsync.ax
Version : 3,2,0,24b

Driver : NeFSource.ax
Version : 3,2,0,24b

Driver : NeNDAud.ax
Version : 3, 2, 0, 24b

Driver : NeNDGui.dll
Version : 3, 2, 0, 24b

Driver : NeNDMux.ax
Version : 3, 2, 0, 24b

Driver : NeNDVid.ax
Version : 3, 2, 0, 24b

Driver : NeResize.ax
Version : 3,2,0,24b

Driver : NePhotoSource.ax
Version : 3,2,0,24b

Driver : NePSMuxer.ax
Version : 3,2,0,24b

Driver : neroadb.dll
Version : 3,2,0,24b

Driver : neroapl.dll
Version : 3,2,0,24b

Driver : NeroFormatConv.ax
Version : 3,2,0,24b

Driver : NeroVideoProc.ax
Version : 3,2,0,24b

Driver : NeSceneDetector.ax
Version : 3,2,0,24b

Driver : NeSplitter.ax
Version : 3,2,0,24b

Driver : NeVcd.ax
Version : 3,2,0,24b

Driver : NeVCR.ax
Version : 3,2,0,24b

Driver : NeVcr.dll
Version : 3,2,0,24b

Driver : NeVideoAnalyzer.ax
Version : 3,2,0,24b

Driver : MultiChannel.dll
Version : 3,2,0,24b

Driver : DriveLocker.dll
Version : 1, 0, 0, 17

Driver : NeroCBUI.dll
Version : 1, 6, 0, 2

Driver : apreg.dll
Version : 2, 0, 0, 7

Driver : AdvrCntr.dll
Version : 1,2,12, 2314

Driver : NeroIPP.dll
Version : 3,2,0,24b

Driver : NeroMediaCon.dll
Version : 3,2,0,24b

Driver : specialoffer.exe
Version : 1, 0, 0, 3

Driver : Bckg.bmp
Version : n/a

Driver : trch._ex
Version : n/a

Driver : SETUP.EXE
Version : 2, 0, 2, 34

Lower Filters
-------------
Upper Filters
-------------
Video Codecs
------------
VDOnet VDOWave : 2, 1, 1, 2
Cinepak Codec by Radius : 1.10.0.6
Intel Indeo(R) Video R3.2
Intel Indeo(R) Video R3.2
Microsoft Video 1 : 4.10.1998
Microsoft RLE : 4.10.1998
Microsoft H.263 Video Codec : 4.4.3345
Microsoft H.261 Video Codec : 4.4.3345
Indeo® video 5.06 : R.5.06.15.2.44
Intel Indeo(R) Video Interactive : V4.11.15.60
Microsoft YUV : 5.3.0000000.900 built by: DIRECTX
Microsoft YUV : 5.3.0000000.900 built by: DIRECTX
Microsoft YUV : 5.3.0000000.900 built by: DIRECTX
Microsoft Windows Media Video 9 : 9.0.1.0369
DivX® 5.2.1 Codec : 5.2.1.1338

Audio Codecs
------------
Lernout & Hauspie CODECs : 1.00.0.1
Microsoft IMA ADPCM CODEC : 4.00.0.0
Microsoft ADPCM CODEC : 4.00.0.0
Microsoft GSM 6.10 Audio CODEC : 4.00.0.0
Microsoft CCITT G.711 A-Law and u-Law CODEC : 4.00.0.0
DSP Group TrueSpeech(TM) Software CODEC : 1.00.0.0
Microsoft G.723.1 CODEC : 1.02.0.1
Indeo® audio software : 2.05.0.52
Windows Media Audio : 4.02.0.0
Sipro Lab Telecom ACELP.net audio codec : 3.02.0.0
Fraunhofer IIS MPEG Layer-3 Codec (advanced) : 1.09.1.49
Microsoft PCM Converter : 4.03.0.0


ASPI Information
----------------
System ASPI : ASPI is installed and working properly

WNASPI32.DLL : 4.71 (0001) 45056 bytes August 14, 2002
APIX.VXD : 4.71 (0001) 27723 bytes August 14, 2002

Nero ASPI : ASPI is installed and working properly

WNASPI32.DLL : 2.0.1.74 164112 bytes October 26, 2004

Installed OS Patches
--------------------
(Q241134) USB driver update : No
(Q265314) Error Message 'No Valid Drive/Disc Found' Playing Audio CD After Using Data CD-ROM : No
(Q274370) Error Message on a Blue Screen When You Try to Play Digital CD Audio : No
(Q240075) USB Devices may not work : No
(Q241134) USB Enumeration Problems : No
(Q253697) USB Enumeration Problems with OpenHCI Controller on Fast Computers : No
(Q243174) MS Digital Video May Lose IEEE 1394 Device Audio : No
(Q252958) High Bandwith patch installed : No
(Q239694) Large Writes to Removable Media May Result in Data Loss : No
(Q242937) Windows Driver Model Audio Update : No
(Q242975) FireWire Support patch installed : No
(Q252183) 1394 Host Controller Driver Does Not Retry Busy Devices Properly : No
(Q284837) 1394 Audio/Video Control Device Stops Working Unexpectedly : No
(Q290831) SRB_FUNCTION_SHUTDOWN Requests Not Sent to SCSI Miniports During Shutdown : No
(Q284837) 1394 Audio/Video Control Device Stops Working Unexpectedly : No
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Postby CCampbell on Wed Jan 18, 2006 11:57 pm

Hi Verne,

I'll have to test this and see what is going on. I'll first test with our latest Nero BackItUp 2.0x that comes with Nero 7 just to see if this is already resolved. Then I'll test with your version of Nero BackItUp on the same system. This way I can see if this is just an old issue, an issue with all builds, or just an issue on your system. Give me a few days and I'll respond back on this forum with my findings.

Best Regards,

Craig
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Postby CCampbell on Mon Jan 23, 2006 6:44 pm

Hi Verne,

Sorry for the delay. But I was finally able to find time to test this issue, and I'm not able to duplicate this issue on my systems.

I'm running Windows XP using an HP740B Recorder and I did an initial FULL backup of the C:\ drive of 12.5GB of data to 3 DVDs. This took me 1hour and 36minutes.

I then added 175MB of data to the C: drive, and then did an incremental backup. And this took a total of 4min and 43 seconds to backup. It prompted me for the last disc, which had the NBI file on it, then the second, and then finally the first. And then it did the backup.

There must be something unique on your system that I'm not properly duplicating.

Regards,

Craig
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Nero 6 Backitup Why 4+hrs for incremental backup?

Postby vstice on Mon Jan 23, 2006 8:18 pm

Craig,

This may only be a problem when the data are spread across several partitions. On my system the partitions are all FAT32.

Also, how much time was spent "calculating backup size", how many files and folders, what was the size of the .nbi file?

Would it help if I install Win98se, then Nero and try to duplicate the problem?
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Postby CCampbell on Mon Jan 23, 2006 9:46 pm

Hi Verne,

Damn, I did test under the wrong OS platform didn't I.

Let me retest this tomorrow on a Windows 98 system. I'll have to reinstall this fresh, as the one system I had 98 Imaged on crapped out on my last week and I've been meaning to get 98 setup on another system and image it for some time.

Looks like you have 6 partitions on there, so I'll try that. This may take a few days as I have other priorities going on at the same time.

The Calculation was done in around a few minutes. I did not time that part exactly, but it was very fast. The .NBI file was 29MB in size. And it had 25 folders and over 6,000 files.

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Craig
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Postby vstice on Tue Jan 24, 2006 3:21 am

Craig,

The time spent doing the "Calculating backup size" can be determined from the backup log. It is the time between the first and second time stamps in the log (see comments in the log extract at end of this message.)

Divide this time by the number of files in the full backup. If the result is more than a few micro-seconds per file, then you are seeing the same problem I have, though probably much reduced by today's much faster CPUs and memories.

A modern CPU, say 3.2GHz, with PC 2700 DDR RAM, is 20 to 30 times faster than my circa 2000 system (450MHz, PC100 ECC SDRAM). A time of 241 minutes on my system would map to 8 to 12 minutes on a modern system.

Extract from log file: (comments follow "****")

Nero BackItUp : 1.2.0.60
[ Backup Process ]
Backup name:CHFullInc1
Created by:Pentium System
Backup date:1/13/06 6:19:29 PM **** Approximate start of "Calc backup size"

=========================================================


Windows 98 4.10
IA32
WinAspi: File 'Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=4.71 (0001), size=45056 bytes, created 8/14/02 3:03:36 PM
ahead WinASPI: File 'C:\APPLS\CD\Ahead\Nero\Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=2.0.1.74, size=164112 bytes, created 10/26/04 5:35:34 PM
Nero API version: 6.6.0.18
Using interface version: 6.6.0.8
Installed in: C:\APPLS\CD\Ahead\Nero\
Application: Ahead\Nero BackItUp
Internal Version: 6, 6, 0, 18e

Recorder: <_NEC DVD_RW ND-3550A> Version: 1.05 - HA 0 TA 0 - 6.6.0.18
Adapter driver: <ESDI_506> HA 0
Drive buffer : 2048kB
Bus Type : default (0) -> ATAPI, detected: ATAPI
_NEC DVD_RW ND-3550A (Target 0, U: Autoinsert Off, DMA On, Disconnect On, SyncDataXfer Off
Excluded drive IDs:
WriteBufferSize: 24117248 (0) Byte
ShowDrvBufStat : 0
BUFE : 0
Physical memory : 127MB (130344kB)
Free physical memory: 1MB (1932kB)
Memory in use : 100 %
Uncached PFiles: 0x0
Use Inquiry : 1
Global Bus Type: default (0)
Check supported media : Disabled (0)

13.1.2006
NeroAPI
10:35:58 PM #1 SCSI -1065 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1182 **** Start of Backup.
SCSI Exec, HA 0, TA 0, LUN 0, buffer 0x043F0400
Status: 0x04 (0x01, SCSI_ERR)
HA-Status 0x00 (0x00, OK)
TA-Status 0x02 (0x01, SCSI_TASTATUS_CHKCOND)
Sense Key: 0x05 (KEY_ILLEGAL_REQUEST)
Sense Code: 0x20
Sense Qual: 0x00
CDB Data: 0xFA 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x06 0x00 0x00 0x00
Sense Data: 0x70 0x00 0x05 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x0A
0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x20 0x00
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Postby vstice on Tue Jan 24, 2006 3:30 am

Craig,

A question and a suggestion.

Did you check this with both Nero 7 and Nero 6?

You should use the .nbi file on your HDD (listed in the welcome screen in BackItUp, just double-click it) to eliminate delays due to handling DVDs.
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