Home News Reviews Forums Shop


New Kodak Preservation CD-R DVD-R media

General discussion about recordable CD, DVD and BD media and write quality testing.

New Kodak Preservation CD-R DVD-R media

Postby LoneWolf on Wed Apr 19, 2006 10:28 am

Hi guys,

Has anyone picked up any of this media yet?

I'm transferring an audio cassette to CD for a colleague. The tape is a master that his uncle cut at Columbia in the 50's or 60's; we're doing this so that we can preserve the music and with it, his family's heritage. I'd like to use discs that aren't prone to degradation over time.

Of course, I don't need a 100-pack spindle, so if anyone knows where I can find these in small quantities (say, 5-25 pack) I'd appreciate knowing that too.
Intel Q9450 @3.2GHz, Gigabyte GA EP45-UD3P, 4 x 2GB G.Skill @4-4-4-12
Antec P160SW case (modded), Xigmatek 750w PSU
3x 500GB (RAID-5), , OptiArc 7200S, ASUS E818A3T
Creative X-Fi XtremeGamer, Hauppauge HVR-1800, Radeon 4890
Dell 2407WFP
User avatar
LoneWolf
CD-RW Player
 
Posts: 937
Joined: Thu Feb 06, 2003 4:41 pm
Location: Meecheegan

Postby MonsterMan on Wed Apr 19, 2006 6:30 pm

Where can one get these at all?
BenQ 1655, BenQ 1620, LG 4167, Plex PX-716SA, Samsung SH-S162L, SH-S182M, Pioneer 111D, Lite-On SHM-165H6S and 1.9TB of HDDs to feed 'em and an X2/4800 to crunch for 'em.
MonsterMan
CD-RW Player
 
Posts: 387
Joined: Mon Jan 03, 2005 7:38 pm

Postby burninfool on Wed Apr 19, 2006 7:22 pm

User avatar
burninfool
CD-RW Player
 
Posts: 1093
Joined: Sun Mar 02, 2003 2:50 am
Location: USA

Postby Justin42 on Thu Apr 20, 2006 2:29 am

Wow.
:roll:

For the price, buy 5 100-pack spindles of 5 different brands, burn copies on each of the 500 discs you bought, and store them well.

I'm sure at least 1 copy will last as long as the Kodak. ;)
Justin42
CD-RW Player
 
Posts: 723
Joined: Sat Jun 29, 2002 10:30 pm

Postby redk9258 on Thu Apr 20, 2006 7:18 am

How about these..

http://www.mofi.com/cdr.htm

Anyone ever tried them?
User avatar
redk9258
CD-RW Player
 
Posts: 374
Joined: Sun Oct 12, 2003 12:44 pm
Location: Troy, Illinois

Postby dolphinius_rex on Thu Apr 20, 2006 10:04 am

redk9258 wrote:How about these..

http://www.mofi.com/cdr.htm

Anyone ever tried them?


Mitsui discs as well I think :wink:
Punch Cards -> Paper Tape -> Tape Drive -> 8" Floppy Diskette -> 5 1/4" Floppy Diskette -> 3 1/2" "Flippy" Diskette -> CD-R -> DVD±R -> BD-R

The Progression of Computer Media
User avatar
dolphinius_rex
CD-RW Player
 
Posts: 6923
Joined: Fri Jan 31, 2003 6:14 pm
Location: Vancouver B.C. Canada

Postby Scour on Thu Apr 20, 2006 3:27 pm

dolphinius_rex wrote:
Mitsui discs as well I think :wink:


What about MPO? They had also Gold-Discs in the past
Benq DW 1640, LG GH-20N, Pioneer BDR-208
Crucial M4, Sandisk SSD, Plextor M5S, Sandisk Ultra Plus, OCZ Petrol 256GB

cu
Scour
Scour
CD-RW Player
 
Posts: 1909
Joined: Wed Nov 07, 2001 8:00 pm
Location: Germany

Postby dolphinius_rex on Thu Apr 20, 2006 4:15 pm

Scour wrote:
dolphinius_rex wrote:
Mitsui discs as well I think :wink:


What about MPO? They had also Gold-Discs in the past


Yup, they make Emtec's Gold CD-R and DVD-Rs.
Punch Cards -> Paper Tape -> Tape Drive -> 8" Floppy Diskette -> 5 1/4" Floppy Diskette -> 3 1/2" "Flippy" Diskette -> CD-R -> DVD±R -> BD-R

The Progression of Computer Media
User avatar
dolphinius_rex
CD-RW Player
 
Posts: 6923
Joined: Fri Jan 31, 2003 6:14 pm
Location: Vancouver B.C. Canada

~

Postby [buck] on Thu Apr 20, 2006 4:42 pm

Given that they're still distributed by KMP media, the company Kodak pawned their name off to, they're probably B or worse grade gold media!
User avatar
[buck]
CD-RW Player
 
Posts: 435
Joined: Thu Nov 25, 2004 1:49 am
Location: Ottawa, ON, CA

Re: ~

Postby dolphinius_rex on Thu Apr 20, 2006 4:55 pm

[buck] wrote:Given that they're still distributed by KMP media, the company Kodak pawned their name off to, they're probably B or worse grade gold media!


Nope, I talked with MAM-A yesterday, and they told me it's all the same grade as MAM-A's own brand of media.... although the MID code may be different, and therefore the results can vary. As Ian's previous tests show, the TDK MID may not work very well with the Gold media's attributes.
Punch Cards -> Paper Tape -> Tape Drive -> 8" Floppy Diskette -> 5 1/4" Floppy Diskette -> 3 1/2" "Flippy" Diskette -> CD-R -> DVD±R -> BD-R

The Progression of Computer Media
User avatar
dolphinius_rex
CD-RW Player
 
Posts: 6923
Joined: Fri Jan 31, 2003 6:14 pm
Location: Vancouver B.C. Canada

Postby LoneWolf on Fri Apr 21, 2006 11:00 am

Hey Dolph,

Any idea where I can get, say a 5-10pack of these CD-Rs? Rarely do I need something as high-quality as this, but I could use a few now, and 100 at that price is way too rich for my blood.
Intel Q9450 @3.2GHz, Gigabyte GA EP45-UD3P, 4 x 2GB G.Skill @4-4-4-12
Antec P160SW case (modded), Xigmatek 750w PSU
3x 500GB (RAID-5), , OptiArc 7200S, ASUS E818A3T
Creative X-Fi XtremeGamer, Hauppauge HVR-1800, Radeon 4890
Dell 2407WFP
User avatar
LoneWolf
CD-RW Player
 
Posts: 937
Joined: Thu Feb 06, 2003 4:41 pm
Location: Meecheegan

Postby dolphinius_rex on Fri Apr 21, 2006 12:25 pm

LoneWolf wrote:Hey Dolph,

Any idea where I can get, say a 5-10pack of these CD-Rs? Rarely do I need something as high-quality as this, but I could use a few now, and 100 at that price is way too rich for my blood.


Well, you could always order from MAM-A's online shop, then you can get 25pks of Gold CD-Rs and 10pks of Gold DVD-Rs:
http://store.mam-a-store.com/standard-- ... -gold.html

And I recommend getting the 4x Gold DVD-Rs and NOT the Gold 8x DVD-Rs. This is based on Ian's poor results with 8x rated Gold media from Memorex (which MAM-A Claims is the same grade as their own brand).
Punch Cards -> Paper Tape -> Tape Drive -> 8" Floppy Diskette -> 5 1/4" Floppy Diskette -> 3 1/2" "Flippy" Diskette -> CD-R -> DVD±R -> BD-R

The Progression of Computer Media
User avatar
dolphinius_rex
CD-RW Player
 
Posts: 6923
Joined: Fri Jan 31, 2003 6:14 pm
Location: Vancouver B.C. Canada

Postby LoneWolf on Mon Apr 24, 2006 11:44 am

Shoot! Doesn't look like they make 80min. CD-R's, they only list the 74min discs. It'll be cutting it close on this project I'm doing, I'll either have to find other discs or make a test disc off my regular media first to see if it will fit.
Intel Q9450 @3.2GHz, Gigabyte GA EP45-UD3P, 4 x 2GB G.Skill @4-4-4-12
Antec P160SW case (modded), Xigmatek 750w PSU
3x 500GB (RAID-5), , OptiArc 7200S, ASUS E818A3T
Creative X-Fi XtremeGamer, Hauppauge HVR-1800, Radeon 4890
Dell 2407WFP
User avatar
LoneWolf
CD-RW Player
 
Posts: 937
Joined: Thu Feb 06, 2003 4:41 pm
Location: Meecheegan

Postby dolphinius_rex on Mon Apr 24, 2006 12:06 pm

Regular Gold CD-Rs also come in 80min, but not the Archival Gold CD-Rs.
Punch Cards -> Paper Tape -> Tape Drive -> 8" Floppy Diskette -> 5 1/4" Floppy Diskette -> 3 1/2" "Flippy" Diskette -> CD-R -> DVD±R -> BD-R

The Progression of Computer Media
User avatar
dolphinius_rex
CD-RW Player
 
Posts: 6923
Joined: Fri Jan 31, 2003 6:14 pm
Location: Vancouver B.C. Canada

Re: ~

Postby RJW on Wed Apr 26, 2006 1:09 pm

[buck] wrote:Given that they're still distributed by KMP media, the company Kodak pawned their name off to, they're probably B or worse grade gold media!


Only for america. MAM-E is supposed to have the kodak brand name for europe.
:o
RJW
CD-RW Player
 
Posts: 1379
Joined: Sun Oct 28, 2001 8:00 pm
Location: The netherlands

Postby Bhairav on Fri Apr 28, 2006 1:38 am

Hey, how about these:
http://www.verbatim.com.sg/products.cfm?productID=41732

I may be getting a good deal on them, are they any good? I have some older 52X DLP discs, marked "Super Azo". Excellent discs. Are these as good?
Q6600@3.1Ghz | Asus P5Q-E | 4GB DDR2-800 | 8800GT | 4TB HDD | Viewsonic vx2025wm
Xonar DX | Pioneer DVR-212 | Pioneer 111L | Benq 1655
User avatar
Bhairav
CD-RW Player
 
Posts: 1239
Joined: Mon Jul 22, 2002 5:44 am
Location: Bombay,India

Postby LoneWolf on Thu May 11, 2006 10:48 pm

I found a vendor on Amazon who carried a ten-pack of the MAM-A discs for $17.00 + shipping.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00065 ... oding=UTF8

The shipping was lousy, but I really don't need that many, probably 2-3 for what I'm doing. The music was created by my colleague's family and is part of his heritage, so I want him to have some forever copies. I found out that all 24 tracks on the tape only take about 60 minutes, so the archive-grade CD's will work.

It's too bad I'm not better at cleaning things up; I did the best I could, but my talents in reducing hiss/noise/etc. are limited, even with the proper software. At least with a digital copy, it won't degrade any further.
Intel Q9450 @3.2GHz, Gigabyte GA EP45-UD3P, 4 x 2GB G.Skill @4-4-4-12
Antec P160SW case (modded), Xigmatek 750w PSU
3x 500GB (RAID-5), , OptiArc 7200S, ASUS E818A3T
Creative X-Fi XtremeGamer, Hauppauge HVR-1800, Radeon 4890
Dell 2407WFP
User avatar
LoneWolf
CD-RW Player
 
Posts: 937
Joined: Thu Feb 06, 2003 4:41 pm
Location: Meecheegan

Postby dolphinius_rex on Fri May 12, 2006 12:39 am

Bhairav wrote:Hey, how about these:
http://www.verbatim.com.sg/products.cfm?productID=41732

I may be getting a good deal on them, are they any good? I have some older 52X DLP discs, marked "Super Azo". Excellent discs. Are these as good?


Those are Gold COLOUR Topped Vinyl CD-Rs only.... no actual gold in them.
Last edited by dolphinius_rex on Fri May 12, 2006 10:02 am, edited 1 time in total.
Punch Cards -> Paper Tape -> Tape Drive -> 8" Floppy Diskette -> 5 1/4" Floppy Diskette -> 3 1/2" "Flippy" Diskette -> CD-R -> DVD±R -> BD-R

The Progression of Computer Media
User avatar
dolphinius_rex
CD-RW Player
 
Posts: 6923
Joined: Fri Jan 31, 2003 6:14 pm
Location: Vancouver B.C. Canada

Postby [buck] on Fri May 12, 2006 7:49 am

dolphinius_rex wrote:
Bhairav wrote:Hey, how about these:
http://www.verbatim.com.sg/products.cfm?productID=41732

I may be getting a good deal on them, are they any good? I have some older 52X DLP discs, marked "Super Azo". Excellent discs. Are these as good?


Those are Gold Topped Vinyl CD-Rs only.... no actual gold in them.


What's the point of that? It sounds like a waste of gold.
User avatar
[buck]
CD-RW Player
 
Posts: 435
Joined: Thu Nov 25, 2004 1:49 am
Location: Ottawa, ON, CA

Postby dolphinius_rex on Fri May 12, 2006 10:03 am

[buck] wrote:What's the point of that? It sounds like a waste of gold.


post edited to be a little more clear :wink:
Punch Cards -> Paper Tape -> Tape Drive -> 8" Floppy Diskette -> 5 1/4" Floppy Diskette -> 3 1/2" "Flippy" Diskette -> CD-R -> DVD±R -> BD-R

The Progression of Computer Media
User avatar
dolphinius_rex
CD-RW Player
 
Posts: 6923
Joined: Fri Jan 31, 2003 6:14 pm
Location: Vancouver B.C. Canada

Postby [buck] on Fri May 12, 2006 10:06 am

dolphinius_rex wrote:
[buck] wrote:What's the point of that? It sounds like a waste of gold.


post edited to be a little more clear :wink:


Got it :wink:
User avatar
[buck]
CD-RW Player
 
Posts: 435
Joined: Thu Nov 25, 2004 1:49 am
Location: Ottawa, ON, CA

Postby dodecahedron on Fri May 12, 2006 2:34 pm

[buck] wrote:What's the point of that? It sounds like a waste of gold.

Gold is beautiful!
imagine a CD made of solid gold! :D
Mr. Goldfinger is spinning in his grave :wink:
One Ring to rule them all, One Ring to find them,
One Ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them
In the land of Mordor, where the Shadows lie
-- JRRT
M.C. Escher - Reptilien
User avatar
dodecahedron
DVD Polygon
 
Posts: 6865
Joined: Sat Mar 09, 2002 12:04 am
Location: Israel

Postby Bhairav on Mon May 29, 2006 12:59 am

dolphinius_rex wrote:
Bhairav wrote:Hey, how about these:
http://www.verbatim.com.sg/products.cfm?productID=41732

I may be getting a good deal on them, are they any good? I have some older 52X DLP discs, marked "Super Azo". Excellent discs. Are these as good?


Those are Gold COLOUR Topped Vinyl CD-Rs only.... no actual gold in them.


Yeah, but will the dye be as good as the older Super Azo discs? These are the only Verb CD-Rs available here, unfortunately.
Q6600@3.1Ghz | Asus P5Q-E | 4GB DDR2-800 | 8800GT | 4TB HDD | Viewsonic vx2025wm
Xonar DX | Pioneer DVR-212 | Pioneer 111L | Benq 1655
User avatar
Bhairav
CD-RW Player
 
Posts: 1239
Joined: Mon Jul 22, 2002 5:44 am
Location: Bombay,India


Return to Recordable Media Discussion

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 0 guests

cron
All Content is Copyright (c) 2001-2017 CDRLabs Inc.