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Postby hoxlund on Fri Jul 29, 2005 3:38 am

Seems that they will be available soon, at least in europe.

Announced Specs:
Quote:
• 16x/8x/16x/6x/16x
• DVD+R/DVD+RW/DVD-R/DVD-RW/DVD-ROM
• 5x DVD-RAM
• 6x DVD+/-R Dual Layer
• 40x/32x/40x CD-R/CD-RW/CD-ROM
• 2MB Buffer


I think that the Dual-Layer/Double-Layer burning speed will be at 8x.

http://www.geizhals.at/deutschland/a152613.html
http://www.geizhals.at/deutschland/a152623.html

Price for the 110: around € 60.
Interesting that the 110 (bulk/OEM) will be also available in SILVER.

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Postby dolphinius_rex on Fri Jul 29, 2005 3:49 am

Is it available in Japan yet under the Buffalo brand name?
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Postby aviationwiz on Fri Jul 29, 2005 3:56 am

Nice, it does DVD-RAM too, looks cool.
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Re: Pioneer DVR-110 / DVR-A10

Postby RJW on Fri Jul 29, 2005 4:36 am

hoxlund wrote:Seems that they will be available soon, at least in europe.

Announced Specs:
Quote:
• 16x/8x/16x/6x/16x
• DVD+R/DVD+RW/DVD-R/DVD-RW/DVD-ROM
• 5x DVD-RAM
• 6x DVD+/-R Dual Layer

I think that the Dual-Layer/Double-Layer burning speed will be at 8x.

??? :D ehhh Do you read what you post.
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Postby Ian on Fri Jul 29, 2005 8:14 am

I think those sellers are just being overly optomistic by listing the drives already. If you translate the page, you see:

New product, date of delivery still unknown and depends on the manufacturer


Essentially, preorder them now but we have no idea when they show up.

Pioneer has not officially announced anything. Once they do, you'll probably see the drives in Japan first and then Europe.
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Postby Scour on Fri Jul 29, 2005 9:42 am

Ian wrote:I think those sellers are just being overly optomistic by listing the drives already. If you translate the page, you see:


That´s the point. Geizhals.at is listing some articles long time before it´s avaible.

But I hope the Pioneer 110 will come soon :)
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Postby frank1 on Mon Aug 01, 2005 3:59 am

The first test made by "YSS" the samouraï
of a OEM Pioneer DVR-110D is out:
http://homepage2.nifty.com/yss/dvr110d/sokuhou.htm

in "babelfish" english:
http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfis ... okuhou.htm


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This drive was bought on July the 30th at Akiba (Japan)
It's his 83th drive !!!
See:

http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfis ... 2fdvd7.htm
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Postby Scour on Mon Aug 01, 2005 4:17 am

Hello!

Hm, DVDinfo don´t report that the drive can write DVD-RAM?
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Postby frank1 on Mon Aug 01, 2005 4:49 am

Yes that's right

So I don't know how many versions of the Pioneer 110 are going to be on the market, maybe you can answer it reading these links:
http://www.speedlabs.org/index.php?page=27
http://www.speedlabs.org/downloads/Pictures/110-1.gif
http://www.speedlabs.org/downloads/Pictures/110-2.gif
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Postby frank1 on Mon Aug 01, 2005 4:57 am

But YSS showed at this link here:
http://homepage2.nifty.com/yss/dv-w516e ... 107_01.htm
that TEAC DV-W716E [firmware 1.07]
burns a DVD-RAM (brand Maxell 5x certified)at 5x CLV[/color][/size]
(4,27 GB en 11 minutes 17 secondes - average speed: 4,98x)
This fact as already been reported on CDRlabs in this thread:
http://www.cdrlabs.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=19991

I don't know if the drive is related to the TEAC DV-W716E
They look a bit similar from outside, see at this link:
drive Nr 77 and drive Nr 83 bought by YSS:
http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfis ... 2fdvd7.htm
I think the experts from CDRLabs are going to tell us quickly if it is the case or not
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Postby Scour on Mon Aug 01, 2005 5:16 am

Hello!

Just wonder: When the ddrive is the top was a rebadged Pioneer, why the emergency-eject-hole is on another place?
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Postby frank1 on Mon Aug 01, 2005 7:01 am

I think you are right

But according to this news at CDRinfo
the new NEC chipsets inside the Pioneer DVR-110D have the potential of DVD-RAM burning

YSS says here that the Pioneer 110 has these chips:
http://homepage2.nifty.com/yss/dvr110d/sokuhou.htm
In "babelfish" english:
http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfis ... okuhou.htm
Code: Select all
* * * Period limitation release & * * 
Pioneer DVR-110D (bulk sale) baseplate scan picture 
Pioneer DVR-109 (buffalo sale) baseplate scan picture * for reference comparison 
   
DVR-110D
NEC D63645GM
NEC C3345GC 
     
DVR-109
NEC D63641GM
NEC C3340GC 
   
There is also about to be different, but it has been similar well.
Because also frame structure has been similar, the minor change model っ ぽ it is.


I also noticed Diseree (from Tokyo) in this post:
http://club.cdfreaks.com/showpost.php?p ... stcount=11
guessing that the DVR-A10 will support DVD-RAM
and the OEM DVD-109D not

So we have to wait for an official statement from Pioneer ...
or maybe have a close look at the coming tests of YSS
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Postby jsl on Mon Aug 01, 2005 8:06 am

Scour wrote:Just wonder: When the ddrive is the top was a rebadged Pioneer, why the emergency-eject-hole is on another place?

It's for sure not a rebadged Pioneer (I don't know why anyone would believe that?).
According to previously posted info it's a TEAC design with Panasonic chipsets, manufacturing of the drive is possibly outsourced to BenQ.
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Postby Ian on Mon Aug 01, 2005 8:13 am

When the DV-W716E was announced, it was said that it was an original TEAC design. I don't think its a rebadge of Pioneer or anyone else.

As far as the DVR-110 goes.. we have yet to see any official specs from Pioneer. It's possible that the rumors that it will write to DVD-RAM were just that.. rumors.
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Postby Ian on Mon Aug 01, 2005 8:16 am

frank1 wrote:So I don't know how many versions of the Pioneer 110 are going to be on the market, maybe you can answer it reading these links:
http://www.speedlabs.org/index.php?page=27
http://www.speedlabs.org/downloads/Pictures/110-1.gif
http://www.speedlabs.org/downloads/Pictures/110-2.gif


Going by this info, there are two versions:

DVR-110/110BK - with DVD-RAM write
DVR-110D/110DBK - no DVD-RAM write
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Postby hoxlund on Tue Aug 02, 2005 10:05 pm

anyone know what the new dvr509 is in our best buy store

it looks like a 109 oem drive in an retail box
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Postby Bhairav on Tue Aug 02, 2005 11:04 pm

hoxlund wrote:anyone know what the new dvr509 is in our best buy store

it looks like a 109 oem drive in an retail box


US retail version of the 109.
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Postby dodecahedron on Wed Aug 03, 2005 3:05 am

OK then what's the difference between DVR-509 and DVR-A09 ?
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Postby Bhairav on Wed Aug 03, 2005 6:14 am

dodecahedron wrote:OK then what's the difference between DVR-509 and DVR-A09 ?


No idea. Read it here:
http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php ... hlight=509
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Postby Ian on Wed Aug 03, 2005 7:51 am

DVR-509:

http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/pna/p ... 10,00.html

Oddly enough, Pioneer America doesn't have any firmware updates for the drive yet.
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Postby RJW on Wed Aug 03, 2005 1:35 pm

dodecahedron wrote:OK then what's the difference between DVR-509 and DVR-A09 ?


Maybe the software package ?
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Postby dodecahedron on Wed Aug 03, 2005 5:51 pm

possibly.
but also, accoring to this picture from the link Ian gave:

Image

it certainly looks like a 109, not an A09.
faceplate of the 109. an by inference, it also doesn't have the other features of the A09 (fast ripping speed; quiet utility or something etc.)

so i guess the 509 can be described as a OEM drive in a retail package (if this makes any sense at all! :o )
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Postby Ian on Wed Aug 03, 2005 6:22 pm

dodecahedron wrote:it certainly looks like a 109, not an A09.
faceplate of the 109. an by inference, it also doesn't have the other features of the A09 (fast ripping speed; quiet utility or something etc.)


Yeah, but one of the features listed on Pioneer's website is "Quiet Drive for minimal operating noise"
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Postby dodecahedron on Thu Aug 04, 2005 2:27 pm

  • Quiet Drive for minimal operating noise.
  • Liquid Crystal Control for optimum recording quality; Precision Recording to minimize the effects of long-term deterioration of re-recordable discs due to repeated writing.
  • Ultra Dynamic Resonance Absorber to reduce vibrations during high-speed recording and playback of discs.

this is listed on the product pages of all 3 drives:DVR-A09XL, DVR-109 and DVR-509. so on the one had this "Quiet Drive" thing doesn't mean the 509 isn't a 109 in a retail packaging.
on the other hand this confuses me even more. i thought there were some features the A09 had that the 109 didn't - like that honeycome-thingie case. is that the Ultra Dynamic Resonance Absorber mentioned here? (if so then the 109 has it too ???) or is that something else ?

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Postby Ian on Thu Aug 04, 2005 2:37 pm

All three should have the Ultra Dynamic Resonance Absorber thing. The difference between the 109 and A09 is that the A09 has the honeycomb thing and is supported by Pioneer's Quiet Drive utility.
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