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Pioneer DVR-212D at mwave.com

Postby Abell44 on Wed Mar 07, 2007 6:23 am

I found these listed on a pricegrabber search about 30 minutes ago on the Pioneer DVR-212D SATA.

DVR-212DBK Black

DVR-212DD Beige
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Postby CowboySlim on Wed Mar 07, 2007 12:51 pm

Any idea how this relates to a 111?

Is it basically the same but been upgraded to 18X?
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Postby Justin42 on Wed Mar 07, 2007 3:42 pm

Wow, cool! I'm shocked (in a good way) to see this in the US. I think I'll definitely pick it up sooner than later, since I need a Pioneer burner in my system (love their quality) but am out of IDE ports. (stupid Intel mobos)

Is there firmware to enable DVD-RAM/auto bitset for the 212 yet?
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Postby dolphinius_rex on Wed Mar 07, 2007 4:39 pm

I would really love to get my hands on this drive! :o
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Postby Wesociety on Thu Mar 08, 2007 1:54 am

Listed price at Mwave = $38.90
It's listed as in stock...
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Postby SithTracy on Thu Mar 08, 2007 9:58 am

Are they easy to crossflash to add DVD-RAM support? If so, I'll grab one and try it out.
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Postby dolphinius_rex on Thu Mar 08, 2007 5:20 pm

I'm told NCIX.com should have them in about a week. :D
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Postby Wesociety on Fri Mar 09, 2007 2:41 pm

SithTracy wrote:Are they easy to crossflash to add DVD-RAM support? If so, I'll grab one and try it out.

Not sure if it's possible to crossflash with the DVRFlash tool, anyone know?
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Postby aviationwiz on Sat Mar 10, 2007 3:42 pm

Just ordered one for my dad since he needs an optical drive anyways, and this allows him to go all SATA.
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Postby Wesociety on Sat Mar 10, 2007 6:24 pm

aviationwiz wrote:Just ordered one for my dad

Booyahhhhh. Let us know how it performs ;)
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Postby bill on Sun Mar 11, 2007 8:21 am

Wesociety wrote:
aviationwiz wrote:Just ordered one for my dad

Booyahhhhh. Let us know how it performs ;)


Yeah, I'm curious too. With the lack of pata on the new Intel mainboards I'm looking for a good sata writer, preferably with 12x -RAM support.
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Postby LoneWolf on Mon Mar 12, 2007 11:01 am

Signing up for two. Price is good, and the wife's system can get my DVD-ROM and DVD writer.

I'll kind of miss my NEC 3500A, but I've heard good things about the new Pioneer drives.

Only thing I'll need to figure out is whether to use my nForce4 SATA ports, or the Silicon Image ones (each controller has 4 ports). I'd rather use the Sil SATA ports and keep the nForce ones open for hard disks, but that may cause compatibility issues, so we'll see.

EDIT: EWiz appears to have (at least the black one) for $40 with free shipping:
http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?name=DVR-212DBK

btw, does anyone know if these drives do LightScribe or LabelFlash? Not a biggie to me, but interesting to know.
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Postby aviationwiz on Mon Mar 12, 2007 5:21 pm

Wesociety wrote:Booyahhhhh. Let us know how it performs ;)


bill wrote:Yeah, I'm curious too. With the lack of pata on the new Intel mainboards I'm looking for a good sata writer, preferably with 12x -RAM support.


Will do. It comes in on Wednesday, since we bought it with 2nd Day Air, as it was only about $3 more than Ground. All I've really got for burning though is TYG03, along with some Verbatim & Acro Circle 16x DVD+R, whatever those MID's are.
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Postby LoneWolf on Tue Mar 13, 2007 9:59 pm

NewEgg now has the drive too. Similar price as MWave. Only saw it available in black.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6827129009

When it rains, it pours; supplies must have just flooded into the US all at once. Looks like the drive's release here is official.

Note: the MWave description said they included software, while NewEgg's lists as bare. We'll see if anything worthwhile is included (I'm guessing I'll get two copies of Nero Express).
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Postby Wesociety on Wed Mar 14, 2007 9:27 am

LoneWolf wrote:btw, does anyone know if these drives do LightScribe or LabelFlash? Not a biggie to me, but interesting to know.

I'm pretty sure that all of the Pioneer "D" models are stripped down versions that do not support DVD-RAM or any type of disc top writing (such as LightScribe or LabelFlash). None of the websites selling the drive mention any of these capabilities.

A crossflash might be possible though, but I'm not sure what the "non-D" version is capable of...
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Postby bbzidane on Wed Mar 14, 2007 10:55 am

finally
a pioneer sata dvd burner
how i have waited for so long

quick question
is there any way to connect a sata dvd burner with an external enclosure using esata or of the sort?

the reason im asking is i prefer to not get an ide dvd burner as i pray it is going to be phased out
i know that the speed definitely does not need it
i just prefer it over usb though
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Postby Wesociety on Wed Mar 14, 2007 12:33 pm

bbzidane wrote:is there any way to connect a sata dvd burner with an external enclosure using esata or of the sort?

I believe it is possible if you find the right enclosure.

I did a quick search online and could only find 2.5" and 3.5" enclosures with an eSATA option.

I'm sure there are some 5.25" models available somewhere though, because LG has an external DVD burner within an enclosure that has an eSATA port. I don't remember the exact model.
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Postby SithTracy on Wed Mar 14, 2007 1:16 pm

Wesociety wrote:I'm pretty sure that all of the Pioneer "D" models are stripped down versions that do not support DVD-RAM or any type of disc top writing (such as LightScribe or LabelFlash). None of the websites selling the drive mention any of these capabilities.

A crossflash might be possible though, but I'm not sure what the "non-D" version is capable of...
That is why I hesitate to get it. I have learned to like DVD-RAM support... I can live without it, but if it is possible to get it... NewEgg will be getting an order (not a fan of Mwave... bad experience in the past and I am not one to forgive when they make a mistake and charge me three times for an order and I had to fight with them to get it fixed).
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Postby aviationwiz on Wed Mar 14, 2007 8:51 pm

Just picked it up, Mwave wanted a direct signature which means I couldn't even sign the release waiver for it.

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Postby Wesociety on Thu Mar 15, 2007 11:16 am

aviationwiz wrote:Just picked it up

Get that sucker hooked up and burning! :D
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Postby LoneWolf on Fri Mar 16, 2007 10:51 am

Mine just came in this morning. mWave bundles the drives with Nero 7 Essentials, even though they're OEM.

Should have them up some time this weekend.

A suggestion to Ian: Doing a comparison between this drive and the ASUS DRW-1814BLT would make a great article/review. :)
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Postby Ian on Fri Mar 16, 2007 11:02 am

LoneWolf wrote:A suggestion to Ian: Doing a comparison between this drive and the ASUS DRW-1814BLT would make a great article/review. :)


Yeah, I still need to pick up both drives.

Edit: Just ordered myself a retail DRW-1814BLT from eWiz.com. I got sick of waiting for Newegg to get them in stock.
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Postby SuperG03 on Mon Mar 19, 2007 12:15 pm

aviationwiz & LoneWolf, so how did it go with the new 212D? Easy to setup? Any hassles with the SATA? How were the burns? Just curious.

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Postby LoneWolf on Mon Mar 19, 2007 4:04 pm

SuperG03 wrote:aviationwiz & LoneWolf, so how did it go with the new 212D? Easy to setup? Any hassles with the SATA? How were the burns? Just curious.

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I'll probably be installing mine tonight. I could have sooner, but after the last month, I've been so burned out on IT from the day job that when I get home, my laptop on the couch with a good WiFi link seems a lot more comfy than working in my downstairs office.

Got a few freelance machines to work on tonight though, so I'll be down there finishing things up. I'll try and give a report Tuesday.
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Postby LoneWolf on Mon Mar 19, 2007 6:47 pm

Okay. Drives are installed, and on my nForce4 Ultra SATA controller. My Mainboard BIOS identifies them properly. Firmware is listed as 1.09. Nero 6.6.1.15 recognizes them fine. Wrote a full dvd with my current Verbatim media (MCC 03RG20) at 8x, (V for Vendetta, if anyone wanted to know), which plays back fine on the same drive and scans just fine with Nero CD/DVD Speed. I really only bought two so I could go entirely SATA, I normally have one playback ROM drive and one writer, but they both seem to work fine.

I don't have a lot of fancy testing equipment, but at least I can say you don't need an Intel chipset for them to work properly. I haven't tried booting off them yet but I have no reason to think that they won't.
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