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Plextor Premium 52x media compatibility

Postby Halc on Wed Aug 06, 2003 4:45 pm

I did some testing in preparation for an upcoming test. Here are my results.

Can other Plextor Premium owners chime in on what is the:

- worst possible media
- best possible media

that you have tried yourself for Plextor Premium?


All burns: Plextor Premium (fw. 1.03) at 52x (PoweRec disabled) with Nero 5.5.10.42
All tests: LiteOn 48246s (fw. 52246s / 6S0F) at 48x (manual set) with Kprobe 1.1.21
All ATIP: Plextor Premium (fw. 1.03) with Feurio 1.66.2ß

Maxell CD-R 80XL-S 48x 700 Mb
ATIP start of lead in: -02:44:58 (sector: -12358)
ATIP start of lead out: 79:59:70 (sector: 359995)
Manufacturer code: 97 15 17 - Ritek Co. (Type: 7)
Disc subtype: Medium Type A, low Beta category (A-)
Target writing power: 4

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Sony CDQ80N5 48x 700 Mb
ATIP start of lead in: -02:37:08 (sector: -11783)
ATIP start of lead out: 79:59:74 (sector: 359999)
Manufacturer code: 97 22 67 - Acer Media Technology, Inc. (Type: 7)
Disc subtype: Medium Type B, low Beta category (B-)
Target writing power: 5

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TDK Speed-X 52x 700Mb
ATIP start of lead in: -02:44:70 (sector: -12370)
ATIP start of lead out: 79:59:74 (sector: 359999)
Manufacturer code: 97 15 05 - TDK Corporation (Type: 5)
Disc subtype: Medium Type B, low Beta category (B-)
Target writing power: 5

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FUJI Multispeed 52x 700 Mb
ATIP start of lead in: -02:33:30 (sector: -11505)
ATIP start of lead out: 79:59:73 (sector: 359998)
Manufacturer code: 97 26 45 - FUJI Photo Film Co., Ltd. (Type: 5)
Disc subtype: Medium Type B, low Beta category (B-)
Target writing power: 5

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Philips Multispeed 48x 700Mb
ATIP start of lead in: -02:44:58 (sector: -12358)
ATIP start of lead out: 79:59:70 (sector: 359995)
Manufacturer code: 97 15 17 - Ritek Co. (Type: 7)
Disc subtype: Medium Type A, low Beta category (A-)
Target writing power: 4

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Platinum 48x 700Mb (slimcase)
ATIP start of lead in: -02:44:58 (sector: -12358)
ATIP start of lead out: 79:59:70 (sector: 359995)
Manufacturer code: 97 15 17 - Ritek Co. (Type: 7)
Disc subtype: Medium Type A, low Beta category (A-)
Target writing power: 4

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Test aborted before end of used disc capacity due to "Access violation" in Kprobe.


Imation 48x 700MbRecorder: PLEXTOR - CD-R PREMIUM
ATIP start of lead in: -02:42:69 (sector: -12219)
ATIP start of lead out: 79:59:74 (sector: 359999)
Manufacturer code: 97 17 06 - Moser Baer India Limited (Type: 6)
Disc subtype: Medium Type B, low Beta category (B-)
Target writing power: 5

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Arita High Density (uncertified) 700MbRecorder: PLEXTOR - CD-R PREMIUM
ATIP start of lead in: -02:44:58 (sector: -12358)
ATIP start of lead out: 79:59:70 (sector: 359995)
Manufacturer code: 97 15 17 - Ritek Co. (Type: 7)
Disc subtype: Medium Type A, low Beta category (A-)
Target writing power: 4

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MMore Multispeed Makrolon 24x 700MbRecorder: PLEXTOR - CD-R PREMIUM
ATIP start of lead in: -02:44:58 (sector: -12358)
ATIP start of lead out: 79:59:70 (sector: 359995)
Manufacturer code: 97 15 17 - Ritek Co. (Type: 7)
Disc subtype: Medium Type A, low Beta category (A-)
Target writing power: 4

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MMore Multispeed Makrolon (slimcase) 52x 700Mb
ATIP start of lead in: -02:42:69 (sector: -12219)
ATIP start of lead out: 79:59:74 (sector: 359999)
Manufacturer code: 97 17 06 - Moser Baer India Limited (Type: 6)
Disc subtype: Medium Type B, low Beta category (B-)
Target writing power: 5

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Traxdata 40x 700MbRecorder: PLEXTOR - CD-R PREMIUM
ATIP start of lead in: -02:44:58 (sector: -12358)
ATIP start of lead out: 79:59:73 (sector: 359998)
Manufacturer code: 97 15 17 - Ritek Co. (Type: 7)
Disc subtype: Medium Type A, low Beta category (A-)
Target writing power: 4

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Verbatim DataLifePlus (printable surface bulk spindle) 48x 700Mb
ATIP start of lead in: -02:25:52 (sector: -10927)
ATIP start of lead out: 79:59:73 (sector: 359998)
Manufacturer code: 97 34 23 - Mitsubishi Chemical Corporation (Type: 3)
Disc subtype: Medium Type A, high Beta category (A+)
Target writing power: 4

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Plextor Multispeed 48x (bulk spindle) 700Mb
ATIP start of lead in: -02:35:74 (sector: -11699)
ATIP start of lead out: 79:59:72 (sector: 359997)
Manufacturer code: 97 24 01 - Taiyo Yuden Company Limited (Type: 1)
Disc subtype: Medium Type A, high Beta category (A+)
Target writing power: 4

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Out of curiosity (and in need of a 'bad burn on a high quality media' example) I also burned an old Ricoh Platinum 8x certified media at 52x:

Ricoh Platinum 1-8x 650 Mb
ATIP start of lead in: -02:35:74 (sector: -11699)
ATIP start of lead out: 79:59:72 (sector: 359997)
Manufacturer code: 97 24 01 - Taiyo Yuden Company Limited (Type: 1)
Disc subtype: Medium Type A, high Beta category (A+)
Target writing power: 4

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Postby aviationwiz on Fri Aug 08, 2003 5:20 am

I can't say with having PoweRec off. I always have it on.

My best media has been Verbatim (MC) 48x.

My worst has been Memorex 40x (TY).

I think that's right about the worst media. Can't really say. I know that's right about the best media.
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Postby dolphinius_rex on Fri Aug 08, 2003 7:22 am

I have to say I find some of those results surprising! But I suppose even the Plextor Premium has a few incompatabilities.
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Postby Halc on Fri Aug 08, 2003 9:35 am

aviationwiz, you are of course right. PoweRec does improve compatibility on some media, but it can also lower the writing speed down to 32x even on 48x rated media.

Also, on some discs, it lowers the rating speed, resulting in a worse measuring burn than when burned with PoweRec off :)

Still, I agree that for normal use, I'd use my PoweRec on, unless I knew some specific media to burn better with PoweRec off.

What I find interesting in the results is that none of the Ritek media are particularly good and most of them are in fact bad.

I still think that Taiyo Yuden is the best media for this drive at 52x, it' just too difficult at times to get hold of where I live.

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Postby Halc on Mon Aug 18, 2003 3:45 pm

More 52x results (using PoweRec ON setting) in another post in the "Media Compatibility With CD-RW Drives - Which Media Is Best?" thread:

http://www.cdrlabs.com/phpBB/viewtopic. ... ght=#76326

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Postby rdgrimes on Mon Aug 18, 2003 6:29 pm

I was surprised to see the Maxell (RiTEK) scan. I just tested some of the new Maxell, here's the scan
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Postby Halc on Tue Aug 19, 2003 2:16 am

rdgrimes,

thanks for the scan. Did you burn that Maxell with LiteOn?

Different brand Ritek's (same subtype, same write power, same certified speed) seem to behave differently when burned on my Premium and scanned on LiteOn (or CDSpeed Scanned on Plextor).

I wonder how many different "versions" there are of current 48x Ritek disc or if these are just batch variance differences?

thanks again for spotting that!

On a related note, how do some people know if an ATIP is faked and the disc really does not come from a factory that the ATIP points to? There must have been threads about this as well, but I must have missed them.

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Postby rdgrimes on Tue Aug 19, 2003 9:20 am

The RiTEK TG media is all the same, as far as I know. Quality control is another issue. (Not to be confused with RiTEK G or others.)
If you want to know that the ATIP is correct, buy reputable media. :wink:
Yes, it was burned on the 7S at 52x.
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