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New Pioneer 1.18 A08XLA, 108AXL, and 108 firmware

Postby hydrogen on Wed Dec 08, 2004 5:20 am

Pioneer released 1.18 firmware for the DVR-A08XLA(B,C), DVR-108AXL(BXL,EXL), and DVR-108(BK) drives.
http://wwwbsc.pioneer.co.jp/product-e/i ... dev_e.html


Release notes

Support 16x writing on New 16x DVD-R Media
(16x writing:BeALL/CMC/Mitsubishi Chemical
Corporation(Verbatim)/Prodisc/TDK)
(12x writing:Fuji Film/Maxell/SONY/Taiyo-Yuden(That's) )
Support 16x writing on New 16x +R Media
(16x writing:CMC/Prodisc/TDK)
(12x writing:Maxell/Mitsubishi Chemical
Corporation(Verbatim)/Philips/RITEK/SONY/Taiyo-Yuden(That's) )
Support 8x writing on New 8x DVD-R Media
(AMC/LEADDATA/LGE/NANYA/Optodisc/Prodisc)
DVD-R/RW/+R/+RW Writability Improvement
CD-R Writability Improvement
DVD Playability Improvement
CD Playability Improvement


Update: The Pioneer web site has now been updated with a message about the 1.18 firmware. It says this

*We have found a problem for the firmware Version 1.18. Some of the drive users were unable to install the firmware at all.
If you have experienced the mentioned problem, please be kind to update your drive with the following firmware which is released on 10th December.
If you have installed the above firmware(Version 1.18, dated 8th December) without problem, your are not necessary to update your drive with this firmware at all.
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Postby dolphinius_rex on Wed Dec 08, 2004 11:51 am

weird that Pioneer only adds support for Optodisc 8x DVD-Rs *now* on the Pioneer DVR-108 when the Pioneer DVR-107 has had support for them since their last firmware a while ago (version 1.21). I'll have to try them out though, since I expect excellent results like with the 107 :D
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Postby hoxlund on Wed Dec 08, 2004 4:05 pm

just finished flashing, thx hydrogen
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Postby hydrogen on Thu Dec 09, 2004 2:37 am

dolphinius_rex wrote:weird that Pioneer only adds support for Optodisc 8x DVD-Rs *now* on the Pioneer DVR-108 when the Pioneer DVR-107 has had support for them since their last firmware a while ago (version 1.21). I'll have to try them out though, since I expect excellent results like with the 107 :D


That is odd. When you do some tests with Dvr-108 and Optodisc 8x dvd-r, please let us know how good they do.
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Postby hydrogen on Thu Dec 09, 2004 2:41 am

hoxlund wrote:just finished flashing, thx hydrogen


Your welcome :)

To hoxlund and everyone else,

Did the 1.18 firmware improve anything from what you can tell?

How good is the Dvr-108 after all the firmware updates that it has had? I haven't kept up with the drive in awhile. I just remember when it first came out everyone wanted the Nec 3500, and they didn't think the Pioneer Dvr-108 was any good. That was along time ago though. They have had a lot of firmware updates since then. I would just like to know how much the drive has progressed from when it first came out until now.
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Postby KenW on Thu Dec 09, 2004 4:06 am

It would seem that 1.18 reduced mcc004 16x media to 12x , I guess pioneer decided it was not good at 16x.
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Postby Ian on Thu Dec 09, 2004 9:08 am

KenW wrote:It would seem that 1.18 reduced mcc004 16x media to 12x , I guess pioneer decided it was not good at 16x.


It was 12x with 1.14 as well.

The writing quality is horrible with CMC and Ritek 16x DVD+R media.
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Postby Ian on Thu Dec 09, 2004 12:53 pm

Prepare to be frightened...

Traxdata 16x DVD+R @ 12x
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Memorex 16x DVD+R @ 16x
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I think Pioneer still has some work to do on this media. :-?
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Postby Bhairav on Thu Dec 09, 2004 12:55 pm

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Postby hoxlund on Thu Dec 09, 2004 1:00 pm

so far its been great drive, ill have to scan another TYG02 at 12x with the new 1.18 firmware so see if it improved
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Postby hoxlund on Thu Dec 09, 2004 1:20 pm

ok TYG02 @ 12x with 1.18 firmware on Pioneer DVR-108BK:

PI Total - 182,697
PI Peak - 159
PI Average - 31

PO Total - 15,151
PO Peak - 113
PO Average - 8
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Postby erdoke on Thu Dec 09, 2004 2:07 pm

Something went wrong with this one, I've never experienced quality drop with a new firmware on Pioneer burners. TY T02 was a lot better at 12X for me with v. 1.14.
My A07 burns the same 4X -R Fuji media with a lot better quality.
What happened??? #-o
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Postby Mystery Man on Fri Dec 10, 2004 10:19 pm

Heres mine with 1.18 firmware on Pioneer DVR-A08XL. Tho only burnt @ 8x on 8x TDK -R disks.

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Errors : 0
PI Max : 377
PI Average : 9.55
PI Total : 162827
PIF Max : 163
PIF Average : 5.83
PIF Total : 99318
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Postby theturtle on Sat Dec 11, 2004 9:46 am

so what DOES burn at 16x with pio 108?

Hoxlund, any way i could get you to post your findings on good results of burning speeds with the media you use?

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Postby hoxlund on Sat Dec 11, 2004 12:18 pm

maxell is the only media i have that burns at 16x, TY TYG02 burns at 12x, princo burns at 4x

thats the media i have

you can load up the hacked firmware and burn everything at 16x, i just wouldn't try princo at 16x, maybe 8x max:

http://forum.rpc1.org/viewtopic.php?t=29958
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Postby Noua on Sat Dec 11, 2004 3:17 pm

hoxlund wrote: wrote:maxell is the only media i have that burns at 16x, TY TYG02 burns at 12x, princo burns at 4x


You still use those?????? :D #-o [-o<
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Postby hoxlund on Sat Dec 11, 2004 3:51 pm

my friend gave them to me, so i can burn stuff on them for him

i warned him that there will be tons that don't work out, he didn't care

so they sit here

i don't use them for my stuff
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Postby alexnoe on Sat Dec 11, 2004 6:57 pm

The plextor branded 8x dvd+r taiyo yuden media i have works at 16x (though no one should care, as the drive is not faster at 16x than at 12x)
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Postby jhigh2000 on Sun Dec 12, 2004 1:02 am

Here are results from some 8x Fuji DVD+R YUDEN000T02 media:

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Postby theturtle on Sun Dec 12, 2004 1:48 am

you didn't specify, is this with the hacked firmware? @ 16x?

that's good news that there's fw that does support 16x
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Postby hydrogen on Sun Dec 12, 2004 5:01 am

Pioneer updated their site about the 1.18 firmware. Below is what the web page says now.

*We have found a problem for the firmware Version 1.18. Some of the drive users were unable to install the firmware at all.
If you have experienced the mentioned problem, please be kind to update your drive with the following firmware which is released on 10th December.
If you have installed the above firmware(Version 1.18, dated 8th December) without problem, your are not necessary to update your drive with this firmware at all.

http://wwwbsc.pioneer.co.jp/product-e/i ... dev_e.html
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Postby Ian on Sun Dec 12, 2004 11:22 am

It's probably not so much a change to the firmware.. but one to the updater.
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Postby hoxlund on Sun Dec 12, 2004 1:35 pm

i always use NIL's DVRFlash to flash my drive:

http://pioneerdvd.rpc1.org/#TEAC
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Postby hydrogen on Sun Dec 12, 2004 10:28 pm

hoxlund,

Thanks for posting about the drive. How do I read scans from a Pioneer A08? I know it's probably different than other drives

Is your scan, Mystery Man's, and jhigh2000's scan good?
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Postby hoxlund on Mon Dec 13, 2004 12:52 am

my scans are great, so far the only program i know that scans from pioneer drives is dvdinfopro
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