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The Best Dual Layer DVD burner?

Postby paxman21 on Wed Sep 21, 2005 10:27 am

I no it's probably been asked before but I want to buy one and would like to get the best one, as you guys appear to be the experts I would like ur advice! Plus I think it will be a useful post for other newbies (up to date list of the best drives).

I have been looking at-

Pioneer DVR-110DBK
LG GSA4163B
LG GSA4167BAL
Benq 1640

What's the diffence between the 2 LG's please?

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Postby dolphinius_rex on Wed Sep 21, 2005 10:35 am

My suggested burners:

#1) BenQ DW1640
#2) Pioneer DVR-109 (or)
#2) LG 4163B

The BenQ DW1640 is by far the most versatile and user friendly drive available, and also very good when it comes to burn quality. In my opinion, nothing even comes close in overall disc compatability to it either.

The Pioneer DVR-109 has MUCH better firmware support for media then the DVR-110D, which is why I recommend it next. It has superior burn quality to many drives, and on CERTAIN MEDIA, even better burn quality then the DW1640 sometimes.

The LG 4167 has lightscribe, and a few other advantages over the LG 4163B (faster DVDRDL support if I remember correctly). I'm recommending the LG 4163B as an alternative to the DVR-109 because it has good burn quality, but incredible speed! So depending on your personal focus, you might prefer the LG 4163B over the DVR-109 or BenQ DW1640.

The reason I don't recommend the LG 4167 over the LG 4163B is because I don't know if it performs as well.

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Postby paxman21 on Wed Sep 21, 2005 11:01 am

Yeh that's great advice

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Postby jberry on Wed Sep 21, 2005 11:17 am

i have the benq 1620, benq1640, and LG 4163b....all are awesome...never a hickup
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Postby paxman21 on Wed Sep 21, 2005 12:18 pm

ok there seems to be a pattern emerging here!

The LG GSA4167BAL doesn't state that it's got lightscribe, if it hasn't what's the difference? It would seem like a newer model?
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Postby ItalianJob on Wed Sep 21, 2005 3:53 pm

The LG GSA4167 isn't Lightscribe but a new model, 4166 or 4168 will do LightScribe.

The LG GSA4167 has DVD+R DL @8X and maybe little other speed improvements.
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Postby paxman21 on Wed Sep 21, 2005 4:04 pm

Ok so would that be the one to go for out of the LGs?
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Postby ItalianJob on Wed Sep 21, 2005 4:12 pm

Who knows for newest LG drives ? 4163 is great but has no PI/PIF scanning, no overspeed hability, no DVD-R DL support.

So I prefer BenQ 1620 or 1640 for a first drive (PI/PIF hability, overspeed of 8X @ 12X or 16X, big communauty like NEC) and then a LG as a second drive (burns a lot of DVD+R DL and DVD+R 16X better than actual BenQ drives, whitout the PIF spikes at the end @16X).

Two good drives for ~ 80 euros is a good deal IMO.
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Postby paxman21 on Wed Sep 21, 2005 4:15 pm

ItalianJob wrote:Who knows for newest LG drives ? 4163 is great but has no PI/PIF scanning


What is PI/PIF scanning spikes? sorry I'm no expert!
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Postby ETP on Wed Sep 21, 2005 6:03 pm

The answer is two or three of the above! Hard to find a burner that is good at everything,media friendly,works out of the box, easy to install, and no quality problems!

BQ 1640 BSOB
NEC 4550 1.6T
Plextor 716a 1.09
Pioneer 109/A09 158
Pioneer 110/A10 1.39
Liteon 5005
Sony 875P & 333ES
Liteon 5005
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Hitachi 61SDX
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Postby paxman21 on Wed Sep 21, 2005 6:12 pm

Yeh I've noticed every drive has flaws!
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Postby ETP on Wed Sep 21, 2005 6:15 pm

Go to newegg and buy two! LOL

BQ 1640 BSOB
NEC 4550 1.6T
Plextor 716a 1.09
Pioneer 109/A09 158
Pioneer 110/A10 1.39
Liteon 5005
Sony 875P & 333ES
Liteon 5005
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Postby Scour on Thu Sep 22, 2005 4:50 pm

Hello!

In the last c´t-magazine the 4167 was tested with FW DL10 (DL11 is now avaible). The 4167 have(had?) problems at 16x SL, but was the best performer (writing-quality) with DL.
Benq DW 1640 and 1650 , Plextor PX-755, Pioneer BDR-208 and 209D, LG GH24NSC0, LG BH16NS40 and 16NS55, Liteon ihas 124F and 324F, Pioneer DVR-215 and S21, Samsung SH-224DB and 224GB, and some more

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Postby ItalianJob on Thu Sep 22, 2005 6:45 pm

paxman21 wrote:
ItalianJob wrote:Who knows for newest LG drives ? 4163 is great but has no PI/PIF scanning


What is PI/PIF scanning spikes? sorry I'm no expert!


=> Curves giving quality of a burned media.
The less, the better.
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Postby mikepraba on Thu Sep 22, 2005 9:35 pm

Hey Buddy,
if you can afford, Just go for Plestor. King of the Burners. The only *MB buffer (I know of) in the market. It is available @ costco for 149 CAD. you cant beat that.
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Postby ItalianJob on Fri Sep 23, 2005 7:15 am

mikepraba wrote:Hey Buddy,
if you can afford, Just go for Plestor. King of the Burners. The only *MB buffer (I know of) in the market. It is available @ costco for 149 CAD. you cant beat that.


PX-716 has 8Mb cache, but who cares ? 2Mb are enough...

By the way, the PX-740 = BenQ 1640 with 2MB cache, a limited firmware and an amazing high price... :D
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