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Slow NEC drives??

Postby Xenomorph on Thu Dec 16, 2004 2:30 am

Hey everyone I'm back with another question but this time it is for someone else's drive.

My friend recently bought an NEC-3500AG off Newegg and my cousin bought a Mad Dog 16XDVD9 which is supposed to be a rebadged NEC. I'm posting this thread because both drives rip at incredibly slow rates. In DVD Shrink both their drives rip no faster than 2,700K/s.

Both the drives are on their own IDE cable in Ultra DMA Mode 2 and both are brand new, but why are they ripping so slow? I updated both drives to the latest firmwares available but I see no change. I was browsing on Google a few nights ago and read something about a "speed unlock" for NEC drives? Is there some sort of hack that needs to be applied so these drives will rip at full speed? Or is it something stupid built into the drive that makes it read at slow rates, (like my Plextor -708A's slow mode).

Any answers to this problem is appreciated.
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Postby Silentbob343 on Thu Dec 16, 2004 8:28 am

yes you need a firmware with rip lock.
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Postby pumas11 on Thu Dec 16, 2004 12:54 pm

how would you go about getting this rip lock? i updated to the nec 2.18 firmware. the question that i have is that when copying a movie with Nero it takes 40 minutes to copy, from begining to end and ive read that some have copied 6 minutes.
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Postby bobmitchell on Thu Dec 16, 2004 12:59 pm

You can get a "tweaked" version of the 2.18 firmware, here:

http://www.cdrinfo.com/forum/tm.asp?m=89610

There is NO way that a full 4.7GB copy can be done in 6 minutes. Usually about 20+ minutes to rip and 6 to burn...that's it.

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Postby pumas11 on Thu Dec 16, 2004 1:36 pm

how safe are these hacked firmwares? i dont want to mess up my drive, im not an advanced user by any means, so i just want to go about it safely.
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Postby TCAS on Thu Dec 16, 2004 11:33 pm

Silentbob343 wrote:yes you need a firmware with rip lock.


The stock firmware of NEC has Riplock, he needs modded f/w with Riplock Removed.
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Postby pumas11 on Fri Dec 17, 2004 2:16 pm

where can i find this hacked firmware?
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Ripping quality after removing riplock

Postby SA on Fri Dec 17, 2004 2:35 pm

Does Removing the Riplock degrade the quality of the ripping? I'm thinking of moving to Liggy's 2.18 with RPC1 and Riplock removed, but I'm wondering why NEC has not increased the ripping speed officially. That seems to be the only flaw with the NEC3500.
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Re: Ripping quality after removing riplock

Postby thegdog on Fri Dec 17, 2004 3:23 pm

SA wrote:Does Removing the Riplock degrade the quality of the ripping? I'm thinking of moving to Liggy's 2.18 with RPC1 and Riplock removed, but I'm wondering why NEC has not increased the ripping speed officially. That seems to be the only flaw with the NEC3500.

You can't degrade the quality. When its copying data, its just copying a bunch of 1s and 0s. So the copy that appears on your hard drive will be exactly the same. There's always the possibility of errors occurring during the copy, but would more likely be caused by problems with your cables or your hard drive. The speed at which you rip shouldn't affect it.

As for why NEC has a rip lock, many (if not most) drives do. Its done so as to not cause unnecessary noise when playing DVDs. And it may also have something to do with trying to appease the MPAA. ;)
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Postby pumas11 on Fri Dec 17, 2004 5:31 pm

downloaded RAR file, now what? i extracted the file, it only gives me a .bin folder. am i doing something wrong?
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Postby TCAS on Fri Dec 17, 2004 8:56 pm

pumas11 wrote:downloaded RAR file, now what? i extracted the file, it only gives me a .bin folder. am i doing something wrong?


Try to download the modded f/w which embedded in Binflash that would make easier to just open the Binflash and f/w will be flashed from their in to your writer. Select the Binflashed with f/w embedded from the following site:

http://www.micheldeboer.nl/firmware/index.html
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