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The return of Kodak recordable media!!

Postby dolphinius_rex on Sat Aug 14, 2004 2:59 pm

I've only seen it one place, but it looks legitimate. From what people have told me, it is made in India, so most likely made by MBIL. Here's some links:

DVD-R 5pk
DVD-R 25pk
DVD-R 100pk

DVD+R 5pk
DVD+R 25pk
DVD+R 100pk

I'm sorry to say that is about all I know about them. I'll see about getting some, but they aren't sold locally in my area, and I'm really not keen on ordering things online. But we'll see, sometimes exceptions need to be made :wink:
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Re: The return of Kodak recordable media!!

Postby aviationwiz on Sat Aug 14, 2004 4:51 pm

dolphinius_rex wrote:I'm really not keen on ordering things online. But we'll see, sometimes exceptions need to be made :wink:


I'm exactly the opposite, I buy everything online, but sometimes an exception needs to be made and buy it in the store.

Why not buy online, the price will be lower 99% of the time, and it's delivered right to you.
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Postby dolphinius_rex on Sat Aug 14, 2004 7:01 pm

I just prefer the "hands on approach" with things... it's my personal preference. I like to know my suppliers, and I like to know who to give hell to when I don't get what I expect. When you know your sales rep, and try to use the same one everytime, you build a relationship with them, and if they eventually learn that false advertising to you gets them reprimanded by the boss.... eventually they learn that you aren't one of the regular customers that can be screwed over. The sooner my suppliers learn I know more about the products they sell then they do, the sooner they learn to cut the crap when I talk to them! :wink:
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Postby aviationwiz on Sat Aug 14, 2004 8:41 pm

Or, just go to a place where you don't have to communicate with an incompetent employee, the internet! There's 1 store here where they have good employees (Micro Center) and the best employee quit like a year or so ago. :(
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Postby dolphinius_rex on Sat Aug 14, 2004 11:50 pm

nah, I prefer human interaction. Besides, there is a certain charm to walking into a store, and having sales reps come to YOU with questions :lol:
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Postby hoxlund on Sun Aug 15, 2004 1:22 am

dolphinius_rex wrote:nah, I prefer human interaction. Besides, there is a certain charm to walking into a store, and having sales reps come to YOU with questions :lol:


well thanks dolphinius_rex, im touched

me coming to you with qualifying questions is what i do best:

what will you be doing with that dvd burner?... (hands them piece of paper with dvdshrink.org website on it) ;)
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Postby dolphinius_rex on Sun Aug 15, 2004 2:23 am

hoxlund wrote:
dolphinius_rex wrote:nah, I prefer human interaction. Besides, there is a certain charm to walking into a store, and having sales reps come to YOU with questions :lol:


well thanks dolphinius_rex, im touched

me coming to you with qualifying questions is what i do best:

what will you be doing with that dvd burner?... (hands them piece of paper with dvdshrink.org website on it) ;)


No offense intended Hoxlund, sadly there are very few sales reps out there as highly educated as yourself. Chances are your company doesn't even give you credit for it either, do they? That has always seemed to be the norm for me at least.

Anyways, isn't anyone else a little shocked to see Kodak brand DVDRs?
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Postby Phoenix '97 on Sun Aug 15, 2004 2:25 am

Hi Dolph,

I could test out a few of these if/when they become available around here, there are four Future Shops in my city. :)

And as for ordering online, I'm not really keen on buying anything from the US... I live in Canada. Whatever an item costs in US dollars, I end up paying that amount times 2.0 to 2.2 in Canadian dollars, after shipping, exchange, duties, etc. :o
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Postby dolphinius_rex on Sun Aug 15, 2004 6:51 am

Phoenix '97 wrote:Hi Dolph,

I could test out a few of these if/when they become available around here, there are four Future Shops in my city. :)

And as for ordering online, I'm not really keen on buying anything from the US... I live in Canada. Whatever an item costs in US dollars, I end up paying that amount times 2.0 to 2.2 in Canadian dollars, after shipping, exchange, duties, etc. :o


I feel your pain man!! Luckily Aviationwiz solves most of my U.S. -> Canada shipping problems :wink:

As for the Kodak discs, it's up to you. I'd be very interested in hearing more details about them, and get a Media ID Code off of them! But I'll probably get some myself in the not too distant future (if possible!).
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Postby myckee on Sun Aug 15, 2004 11:48 am

The -R is made in INDIA and the +R is made in TAIWAN. I might buy some +R to see what it is, but I'm not keen on buying Indian made discs...
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Postby Bhairav on Sun Aug 15, 2004 11:53 am

myckee wrote:The -R is made in INDIA and the +R is made in TAIWAN. I might buy some +R to see what it is, but I'm not keen on buying Indian made discs...


*shrug*. Your loss. MBI DVD-R and +R discs burn quite well on my 832S. Any reason you don't want to buy India-made discs?
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Postby myckee on Sun Aug 15, 2004 12:15 pm

Ok, I went ahead and bought both. Since I had never heard of any media made in India, I was a bit hesitant, but I thought, Might as well try new things. As reported by Dvdinfopro:

-R
Code: Select all
00000000 00 6A 00 00 01 40 C1 FD 9E D8 52 00 02 87 0D 11 .j...@....R.....
00000010 66 78 80 00 03 50 72 6F 64 69 73 00 04 63 53 30 fx...Prodis..cS0
00000020 33 20 20 00 05 A8 82 00 20 00 02 00 06 09 11 11 3  ..... .......


+R
Code: Select all
00000000 08 02 00 00 A1 0F 02 00 00 03 00 00 00 26 05 3F .............&.?
00000010 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 50 52 4F 44 49 53 43 00 52 .......PRODISC.R
00000020 30 32 00 38 23 54 37 0F 02 54 6B 02 94 63 15 15 02.8#T7..Tk..c..
00000030 0B 0A 08 08 01 1C 1E 0B 0C 12 12 01 00 00 00 00 ................


Both seem to be Prodisc Media. Is prodisc any good?
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Postby ms5133 on Sun Aug 15, 2004 12:38 pm

The media code on the +R I bought yesterday (DVDinfoPRO)

08 02 00 00 A1 0F 02 00 00 03 00 00 00 25 EF 0F .............%..
00 00 00 00 00 00 01 4D 45 44 49 41 20 49 44 30 .......MEDIA ID0
30 31 00 38 23 54 37 13 02 4A 71 02 90 66 16 16 01.8#T7..Jq..f..
0B 0B 0A 0A 01 1C 1E 0B 0C 12 12 01 00 00 00 00 ................

Looks like a different batch
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Postby dolphinius_rex on Sun Aug 15, 2004 2:43 pm

wow.... very VERY weird!!

I have to talk with a friend about this one, he's the only person I know who might be able to get answers on what's up with this media.

I'm not getting an encouraging feeling if there are two batches of this media, and one has a Media001 code. I'm not very sure what's going on if the media says Made in India, and the code says Prodisc either! :-?
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Postby ms5133 on Sun Aug 15, 2004 8:10 pm

All in all, not the worst I ve seen(not the best either)My 25 cake box of +R actually said 8x on the wrapper-MADE IN TAIWAN-burned with Plextor 712 @4x- CLonedvd..



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PIE POE POF
Avg 1.04 - -
Max 43 - -
Total 148990 - 0


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Postby dolphinius_rex on Sun Aug 15, 2004 9:08 pm

I just ordered 1 25pc cake box of the DVD-Rs and the DVD+Rs each. I'll let people know what they are like when I get them :D

Should be interesting to see how consistant the media is, and I may even devise some sort of lifespan test for them, to see if they live up to the Kodak reputation :wink:
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Postby hydrogen on Sun Aug 15, 2004 9:30 pm

dolphin,

I am shocked to see Kodak dvdr media :D

Next we will probably have AT&T dvdr media :lol:

I remember buying some AT&T cd media.

Where can I get some in the US?
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Postby dolphinius_rex on Sun Aug 15, 2004 10:30 pm

umm, it's possible best buy might have some... hard to say though.
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Postby myckee on Sun Aug 15, 2004 10:33 pm

I should mention that I didn't buy the spindled media, I bought the 5 disk packages of each.
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Postby hydrogen on Mon Aug 16, 2004 8:01 am

Thank you dolphin. I will have to check to see if they have any.
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Postby alien7 on Mon Aug 16, 2004 12:00 pm

They have Kodak DVD R media at Future Shop (Cdn) now, if anyone is interested... :wink:
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Postby digitaldoc on Mon Aug 16, 2004 12:08 pm

It's nice to see Kodak getting back in the media business. I have some of the branded Gold cd-r's. They have held up quite well through the years.

I also have one spindle of those AT&T cdr's, I still can't figure out why AT&T was getting into the media business.

I'm with Dolph on online buying. I like to know who to complain to when the purchase doesn't work out.
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Postby dolphinius_rex on Mon Aug 16, 2004 12:20 pm

alien7 wrote:They have Kodak DVD R media at Future Shop (Cdn) now, if anyone is interested... :wink:


That's exactly what my first post was about.... I even linked to every Kodak DVDR type/package futureshop sells :wink:
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Postby Halc on Mon Aug 16, 2004 2:07 pm

In the corporate world of greed, were only brand (not quality) matters, I'm not surprised somebody decided to take advantage of the Kodak brand again.

Unfortunately, as they are not using anything special on the manufacturing side, I'm afraid this will just end up being another "branded" overpriced version of Prodisc/MBI (whichever turns out to be the manufacturer).

I'd have welcomed Kodak back with open arms had they actually packaged something different under their own brand :)

But yes, I was shocked, but after hindsight it was to be expected :)
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Postby dolphinius_rex on Mon Aug 16, 2004 2:20 pm

I'm not ready to make assumptions on this media yet... remember, with DVDRs, you REALLY can't just bring a product out. If Kodak wants their media to work, they need to have a code that is implemented in all the firmwares of the drives using their media. So a partnership with an established manufacturer makes sense for this. It is also possible, that if Kodak is really serious about bringing back their media, that we will see Kodak codes beginning to be intergrated into firmwares. I'm sure we will see it first with LiteON (and since we can pull these firmwares apart quite easily, we will know quickly!).

So far there are MANY questions left unanswered about this. We have made in India and made in Taiwan products. Some with Prodisc codes, and some with Media001 codes.... none with MBIL codes so far. Results of the media so far have been promising, but only time and considerable professional testing will really show if this media is what its' name's reputation would lead you to expect.

This may be still a very good thing... but it could also be nothing impressive. Only time will tell.
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