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PostPosted: Sat Sep 27, 2003 2:39 pm
by rdgrimes
with no errors

Can you define "no errors"?

PostPosted: Sat Sep 27, 2003 3:04 pm
by dolphinius_rex
When I burn my Melody 24x CD-RW made by InfoDisc, it burns completely 100% through.... and it isn't until I run K-Probe (haven't tried Q-Check) before I see the massive amounts of C2 errors. I would not consider this no errors personally, although about 90% of the disc is salvegable.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2003 7:21 pm
by Matrix3
When I said "no errors" it meant that newly written CDRW was working fine with all files copied. I'm not some kind of an idiot to use error tools for those who throw their CDRs under train and then they find some errors later.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2003 8:31 pm
by rdgrimes
I'm not some kind of an idiot to use error tools

Which is why you think that Infodisc US media is burning with "no errors".

PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2003 6:28 pm
by Noua
Well, I can tell you something. Even with the new firmware on my Plexi I'm not able to burn the discs... Glad I return most of them.. Only got 1 left... Now with the latest firmware It does burn, but it doesn't read back...

Well, the media sucks anyway.. I'd rather use my Sony 10x.. Takes 5-8 minutes but it doesn'0t report a sinhle problem...

PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2003 6:45 pm
by aviationwiz
I'd personaly rather use my Verbatim 32x media :wink:

PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2003 6:46 pm
by rdgrimes
Here's the BEST scan I've ever gotten on the Infodisc US, I've burned it in 4 different drives:

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Actually, this media holds my personal record for the most errors ever, at over 7 million C1 and 5 million C2.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2003 7:33 pm
by dolphinius_rex
rdgrimes: Wow! I *WISH* my worst CD was only that bad! seriously!

PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2003 8:52 pm
by Matrix3
ASUS burner is obviously superior to crappy Plextor burner. Buy Asus so you can use more media. I don't see the point in using error tools if you do not experience any problems. Verbatim can't be found in most US stores so it is not an option for me although I'm sure that Verbatim CDRWs are good.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2003 9:01 pm
by aviationwiz
1. It's been well proven that Plextor is much better than Asus, but that is your opinion, so fine.

2. I can't even find a store that DOESN'T carry Verbatim CD-R/RW's in USA stores, so I don't know where you live.

verbatim availibility

PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2003 10:23 pm
by wicked1
I have not seen any Verbatim high speeds at all in stores. All I have seen is the crappy Memorex discs. On a more positive note my Samsung 352 has actually been doing readable burns with the new firmware T807. Not that I am saying buy those discs at all as they are horrible. My LiteOn and Sony wont burn them at all.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 09, 2003 11:46 am
by maarten
aviationwiz,

do you actually use 32X CD-RW 's ?!

gr.

M

PostPosted: Thu Oct 09, 2003 1:57 pm
by vsekh
I don't believe the Verbatim has released their 32x CD-RWs yet. A lot of people are waiting for this media to be released. It's supposed to be released sometime in October.

32x CD-RW

PostPosted: Fri Oct 10, 2003 2:47 pm
by XIII
vsekh wrote:I don't believe the Verbatim has released their 32x CD-RWs yet


That's right. Verbatim Europe released a press statement about making them available in October. I haven't seen any yet here in the Netherlands.

Anyone around the world?

Somehow they have removed that press info from their website. Now it only states that soon some information will be reveiled here.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 10, 2003 6:44 pm
by dolphinius_rex
They are available to some... but only a lucky few. You can expect them to be available in stores soon though, maybe this month if we're lucky.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2003 8:39 am
by Matrix3
You can check out reviews for both burners here on CDRLabs.com and hardly that Plextor is much better drive. Lousy software, media compatibility, limited number of rewriting speeds, poor CDA extraction and high price are lows for Plextor.

The PX-W5224TA didn't do as well as some of the other drives we've looked at lately. While none of the sectors on the disc were unreadable, the drive considered 71.09% of the CD to be "damaged".


Asus lows and low price are much more acceptable. Recent firmware updates improved this drive a lot.

And you forget to tell su the name of a single US store where we can purcahse Verbatim 32x CDRW that you bought them monts ago.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2003 11:17 am
by RJW
Infodisc atip code is know used also by some third parties.
At leas MAM-E (CSI/MITSUI) uses it for there cd-rw's.
I wonder if they bought the technology or just used the atip /bought the stampers since it's matched there dye.
Or mitsui france imported to much of our Dutch Green Stuff these days which made them make them get this weird idea.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2003 8:32 am
by maarten
as far as I know,
neither CSI nor Mitsui has ever produced CD-RW discs.

gr

M

PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2004 5:13 pm
by QQ
Some more great pics, of Memorex Ultra-Speed CD-RW performing (bought two of those), both burned at 16 - 24x was even worse. Had to cancel Kprobe for second one, cause it just wouldnt finish due to errors:

CD #1:

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CD #2:

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For comparison, Verbatim Ultra-Speed CD-RW burned at same LTR-48246K, at 24x:

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As you see all 3 images have increased error count at the end of cd. To rule-out possibility of me having a bad burner, I burned same Verbatim disc on my LDW-811S (also 24x):

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Same story as you see - only much more errors reported this time. If it's my dvd burner writing cd-rws worse, or my cd burner misreporting errors I don't know. Here is same burn scanned using dvd burner:

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Well, what can I say - beats me.

Nothing is clear, except for one thing - Memorex blows goats :evil:

PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2004 11:17 pm
by dolphinius_rex
no, Memorex is just to stupid to know any better. The real fault lies with Infodisc, who manufactures these craptacular discs!