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TY Fuji's Question

PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2003 7:32 pm
by JustRob
Hello- Its your friendly neighborhood CDR/PC idiot again with a question.

Recently I had some problems with a bad drive or media. It has since been resolved thanks to a fellow forum member "CDRecorder". TYTY

Anyways I just got my hands on a 50 Pk of Fujis from Best Buy. There are Made in Japan and when I looked at them with the CD Indentifier they are Taiyo. From reading on this forum for the last two days this brand of CDR and the fact that TY is one of the best apparently leads me to wonder.

When I go back to Best Buy to get more in a month is there a way to know that what I am getting is the exact same stuff I have been using? I read in one thread if it is made in Japan it is TY but in another thread someone said this is not true. Any insight will be appreciated cause if I have too I will go get a stockpile of them now but I would rather wait till I need em.

Thanks in advance.

Rob

PS: One last thing lol. On EZCD it has this option for Finalize disc. I only use CDR's (no RW at all) to burn Audio or to save AVI,MPEG or both. Should I set it to finalize disk everytime? Have not seen good info on this so I think if is common knowledge to you guys but to me it makes no sense :( TY

PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2003 8:07 pm
by tazdevl
Every piece of Fuji I've ever bought has been made by TY. Only thing that I can think of is if they bought some slower speed CDRs that Fuji has outsourced to someone else.

Best way to tell is if you look down through the top of the package. The inner ring is clear if it isn't TY it's clear, opaque if it is TY. Also look to see if it's made in Japan.

There might be a chance that the person that didn't get TY got a hold of some counterfeit discs. It does happen on occasion depending where you live.

Unfortuntately they changed their packaging a bit, so it's harder to tell.

If you finalize, there's greater compatibility from a reading standpoint.

PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2003 8:32 pm
by JustRob
Cool. Thanks. I grabbed my spindle and looked and I see what you are saying about the opaque. I also looked where it says MADE IN JAPAN. I will remember these things and check them when I buy them with my CD identifier. I appreciate the info. I will go back into read and learn mode and take all this in.

Peace
Rob

PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2003 8:59 pm
by Infinity
Recently Fuji has been packaging non TY discs for their 100pk, no one knows if this is a temporary thing or a sign of things to come. I believe the discs were made by Prodisc.

You might want to check out this thread for more details: Link

PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2003 1:22 pm
by rdgrimes
See this thread. It appears that Fuji is abandoning TY media for CMC now too. There's a link there to contact Fuji and let them know how you feel about this change.

Maybe we can get Ian to post a news article about this too. Fuji needs to get some #$%& over this change.

PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2003 1:57 pm
by CDRecorder
That's really too bad that Fuji is switching to other manufacturers than TY. I always used to recommend Fuji media because it was always TY.

PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2003 4:40 pm
by JustRob
Great, just when I found a good one they are in the process of switiching lol. Well I dont have many choices left since I get all mine at best buy near my home. They only offer Fuji, Imation and Memorex now. They stopped carrying Verbatim (the store near my home) dunno why. They also have TDK but my burner will not allow it to go over 24X so they are out too.

HMMMMM


Rob

PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2003 8:15 pm
by CDRecorder
Imation media is made by CMC, too. I've used Imation 32x media, and it works great with my LTR-32123S. :D I don't know how good Imation's current media is, though.

PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2003 10:37 pm
by JustRob
Hey do you folks know who makes what or is this just by testing stuff you buy with that identifier thing?

I guess essentially what I am asking is. Is there a list around somewhere that says whp makes what. Worth a shot.........Thanks

Rob
CD n00b!

PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2003 10:46 pm
by CDRecorder
You can find this info with the Lite-On SMART-BURN Media Check Program.

PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2003 11:01 pm
by Coyote
So what other brands use TY? All brands I ever see, except Fuji, say Made in Taiwan. I'm not buying Fuji anymore, if it's not TY. Fuji just lost a customer.

PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2003 11:30 pm
by rdgrimes
The same rule still applies in the USA, whether you're talking about Fuji or any other. If it says "Made in Japan", buy it.

PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2003 1:30 am
by JustRob
I picked up some more today. I got a few more 50PK spidles from FUJI and saw they were made in Japan. When I brought them home they were TY according to that thingie LOL.

I am happy. Same stuff.......No problems for me I hope.

Thanks to all for your help..

PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2003 4:58 am
by TheWizard
Coyote wrote:So what other brands use TY?


You can find older Memorex, TDK, HP, and Sony spindles with the screw cap and "Made in Japan" statement printed on the plastic covering. Both are trademarks of TY. Some Plextor discs are also made by TY. "That's CD-R" is TY's actual brand, I believe. And, finally, Sentinel is another brand that uses TY discs. Although, Sentinel discs are not available in the USA...not from what I have seen.

PostPosted: Sat Sep 06, 2003 12:39 pm
by tlotz
Coyote wrote:So what other brands use TY? All brands I ever see, except Fuji, say Made in Taiwan. I'm not buying Fuji anymore, if it's not TY. Fuji just lost a customer.

The last time I checked, Maxell CD-R Pro (note the very important *Pro*)40X certified CD-Rs are made by TY. Just check for the made in Japan on the outside of the package. These discs overclock to 48X without a problem (and probably 52X, but never tried it). The problem with buying Maxell CD-R Pro is that they are expensive. They are sold in thick jewel cases and spindles of 25 at Walmart, Office Depot, and Staples.

PostPosted: Sun Sep 07, 2003 7:35 am
by Harrier
JustRob wrote:I picked up some more today. I got a few more 50PK spidles from FUJI and saw they were made in Japan. When I brought them home they were TY according to that thingie LOL.

I am happy. Same stuff.......No problems for me I hope.

Thanks to all for your help..


What was the cost if i may..?

PostPosted: Sun Sep 07, 2003 6:12 pm
by JustRob
12.99 50Pk spindle with a 8.00 MIR

:)

Rob

PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2003 8:30 pm
by rdgrimes
Just an update:
I found some new packaging today at CompUSA, the Fuji 48x in 50-ct spindles turned out to be Prodisc. A test of the media indicates it's the same ATIP as the 100-ct spindle, but is of lesser quality. this is typical of Prodisc, you never know what you're getting.
you can see the test HERE, as well as the previous test of the 100-ct spindle.

PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2003 11:09 pm
by CDRecorder
Certainly not up to the TY standards. :x

PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2003 11:42 pm
by rdgrimes
I wonder if we're seeing the beginning of the end of TY CDR's. Maybe they are moving to only DVD recordables.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2003 12:09 am
by CDRecorder
I certainly hope not! I think that CD-R still has a lot of time left before it entirely disappears.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2003 12:16 am
by rdgrimes
We know from news reports that they are changing over CD production lines to DVD, so we will certainly see fewer CDR's around. The only TY that I can find in any stores here is the ultra-expensive Maxell-Pro. (other than remaining Fuji stock)

PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2003 6:09 am
by UALOneKPlus
From what I've seen of CompUSA's Fuji stock, all 50 packs have converted to non-TY.

However, Best Buy still have all TY 50 pack Fuji CDR's, while their 100 pack Fuji CDR's are non-TY.

So this means I'll be buying Fuji 50 packs from BB in the mean time only.

Fuji/TY

PostPosted: Fri Sep 26, 2003 6:32 pm
by Bonesdad
tazdevl wrote:Every piece of Fuji I've ever bought has been made by TY. Only thing that I can think of is if they bought some slower speed CDRs that Fuji has outsourced to someone else.

Best way to tell is if you look down through the top of the package. The inner ring is clear if it isn't TY it's clear, opaque if it is TY. Also look to see if it's made in Japan.

There might be a chance that the person that didn't get TY got a hold of some counterfeit discs. It does happen on occasion depending where you live.

Unfortuntately they changed their packaging a bit, so it's harder to tell.

If you finalize, there's greater compatibility from a reading standpoint.



Interestingly, the Fuji 30 pack I just bought sez MADE IN JAPAN, but has a clear top spindle...

PostPosted: Fri Sep 26, 2003 6:34 pm
by CDRecorder
What do you mean by "a clear top spindle"? If you mean that it doesn't have the rotating cap that holds the cover on the spindle, that's normal for newer TY spindles.