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How is the 5239S?

PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2005 8:12 am
by Bhairav
How is the Lite-On 5239? Any good? I love my 52327S, but I need to get a new drive for a relative, and the 52327S is EOL.

PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2005 5:51 pm
by Gabe
I have the 5238. Ok for media like Ritek, Plasmon, ...

But with exotic media liek my 40x Fornet it´s a real bad drive. It burns @52, high C1 and C2-errors. When I shift down to 40x the errors are higher than with 52x.

My NEC 3500 burns that media @32x with aver. 0,5 C1 and no C2-errors.

PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 7:05 pm
by SkaarjMaster
:o Well, I almost ordered one of these from newegg for my office computer (SOHR-5239S). Since the 5237S is out of production and I will probably almost never need a DVD burner at the office, what CD burner would you guys suggest I order instead of this one? Most of the burns at the office will be data or data backups or disc copies.

PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 7:22 pm
by wicked1
my liteon 52246S thats for sale in the buy and sell forum 8) They are great drives and you can get it cheap. It was rated better than the 52327 for a while when the 52327 was new.

PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 7:41 pm
by Gabe
The AOpen CD-RW-drives seems to be one of the best you can get this time.

PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 8:19 pm
by SkaarjMaster
Which AOpen model would you suggest? Looks like this one has the latest firmware:
http://forum.rpc1.org/dl_firmware.php?download_id=2041

PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 8:46 pm
by Gabe
AOpen have much drives with similar specs and names. Don´t know if every revision of their 52x32x52 is avaible in every country, but these two drives are avaible in Germany at this time:

http://www.aopen.de/products/cdrw/CRW5232AAOPRO.htm

http://www.aopen.de/products/cdrw/CRW5232AAOSL.htm


AOpen is one of the last manufacturer that brings new CD-RW-drives at this time, and they have a good FW-support. But it´s AOpen-typical that the drives won´t burn every media at it´s rated speeds, so it can be that the drive burns 52x at 48x or 40x max.

PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 9:02 pm
by SkaarjMaster
That second one is the one I linked to, so I'll check that one out. Thank you. :D

PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 9:24 pm
by SkaarjMaster
This is the only biege one I can find at reputable dealers in the US:
http://www.directron.com/crw5224.html

The link says 5224, but the site says 5232.

PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 7:13 am
by Scour
Hello!

I acn recommend LG´s CD-writers. Not very loud and good quality, also with not good media.

PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 3:22 pm
by Gabe
SkaarjMaster wrote:This is the only biege one I can find at reputable dealers in the US:
http://www.directron.com/crw5224.html

The link says 5224, but the site says 5232.


Like I said, it´s hard to see what are the difference between some AOpen-drives, bcause they have the same specs but different letters like aao, aar etc.

PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 5:28 pm
by SkaarjMaster
Based on replies at three different forums, here are the contenders (all biege):

Lite-On SOHR-5239S BG RTL >> $27.00
AOpen CRW-5232 Retail >> $26.99+
LG GCE-8527BB OEM >> $26.99 (retail 8526B >> $31)
Asus CRW-5232AX BGE OEM >> $27.99 (retail 5232AS >> $30.99)

PostPosted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 6:16 am
by Gabe
SkaarjMaster wrote:Based on replies at three different forums, here are the contenders (all biege):

Lite-On SOHR-5239S BG RTL >> $27.00
AOpen CRW-5232 Retail >> $26.99+
LG GCE-8527BB OEM >> $26.99 (retail 8526B >> $31)
Asus CRW-5232AX BGE OEM >> $27.99 (retail 5232AS >> $30.99)


My favorite is the AOpen, next is the LG (but LG don´t have good FW-support). But if you want a drive with quality-scanning you can go for the LiteOn.

Do you burn many CD-R? I use my 5238S mostly for scans, that means I don´t use it often. Read at CDFreaks that the newer LiteOn´s have problems with the tray-mechanism:

http://club.cdfreaks.com/showpost.php?p ... ostcount=5

PostPosted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 7:16 am
by SkaarjMaster
Do you know if they fixed the tray-mechanism problem (MTBF of its tray and disc sensing) with the 5239S? Also, I'll be doing mostly burning CD-Rs at the office and no scanning and right now we have a stack of Philips CD-Rs (52X, 700MB, 80 min) to use. It's looking more and more like the AOpen (will be my first AOpen anything), but I know Directron is going to jack me with the shipping and handling.

PostPosted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 8:30 am
by Gabe
SkaarjMaster wrote:Do you know if they fixed the tray-mechanism problem (MTBF of its tray and disc sensing) with the 5239S?


No, I don´t know. And my hope that the tray from the 5239S is better than from the 5238S is very low. Someone tell me that the tray´s are flumsy when LiteOn begins to produce the very short drives. I´m not sure about that because the 52327S should be better and it´s only 170mm deep like the 5238/5239. But here I see a little different about the weight:

http://www.liteonit.com/ODD/English/e_p ... r5239s.asp
http://www.liteonit.com/ODD/English/e_p ... r5238s.asp


52327S:

http://www.liteonit.com/ODD/English/e_p ... 52327s.asp

You see, that the 7S is 10% more heavy than the 38/39S


I have a LiteOn SOHW 1653S and it has the same tray-mechanism, looks net very longevity.

PostPosted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 9:30 am
by code65536
It is my understanding that LiteOn has moved on to a new revision of their drive chassis with the 9S CD-RW drive (but not their 8S). I've never used the 9S CD-RW, but I have used their 6K combo, which features the same new chassis revision. The tray has changed. It's slower, but seems to be sturdier than before. The 6K combo is also a lot quieter, at least compared to the older 1H combo.

PostPosted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 9:50 am
by dodecahedron
how abut the (new?) SOHR-5239V ?
what's the difference between the 5239V and 5239S ?
http://www.liteonit.com/ODD/English/e_p ... r5239s.asp
http://www.liteonit.com/ODD/English/e_p ... r5239v.asp

the specs appear to b identical.
different chipset ?

the only apparent differenct can be seen in these pics:

5239S:

Image

5239V:

Image

the speeds sticker next to the eject button is missing in the V model.
unfortunately the link for the big picture is broken on the 5239V page.

PostPosted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 1:12 pm
by SkaarjMaster
So, does this one have the crappy/bad tray mechanism or the good tray mechanism?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6827106976

PostPosted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 3:53 pm
by Gabe
SkaarjMaster wrote:So, does this one have the crappy/bad tray mechanism or the good tray mechanism?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6827106976


Code said that the 9S-drives have the new mechanism and this is a 5239S

PostPosted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 4:52 pm
by SkaarjMaster
"new mechanism" = crappy/bad mechanism? Just need a confirmation on this because I don't seem to be following this thread.

Also, the AOpen is definitely out because only Directron has it and the best I can figure is the shipping will be anywhere from $6-$15. :o Sorry, Gabe but they are just hard to find around here.

PostPosted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 9:27 pm
by code65536
The 9V is identical to the 9S, except that the 9V uses a different laser (and thus a slightly different firmware). Same with the 6V vs. 6K for combos and 9S vs. 9SV for CD-ROMs. To the best of my knowledge, except for the different laser, the S and V drives are otherwise identical.

The "V" drives are newer. No idea if that means that they're better. I going to guess that they perform the same and that LiteOn switched lasers for business reasons (supply shortage of the Sanyo lasers as Sanyo undergoes restructuring? price differences? etc.? *just tossing out wild guesses*)

PostPosted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 10:50 pm
by SkaarjMaster
So, "new mechanism" = crappy/bad mechanism?

PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 5:05 am
by code65536
SkaarjMaster wrote:So, "new mechanism" = crappy/bad mechanism?

These are my personal observations of the new chassis:
code65536 wrote:The tray has changed. It's slower, but seems to be sturdier than before. The 6K combo is also a lot quieter, at least compared to the older 1H combo.

So I think that the new chassis revision is good overall. Since this was just me playing around a bit with my cousin's 6K drive, I didn't do any sort of intensive testing, but the first impression that I got was that the new chassis revision is better.

The new mechanism should be present in the SOHD-16P9S, so you should be able to get an idea from that of what it's like.

PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 7:40 am
by SkaarjMaster
OK, I'm really confused now. The only thing I can deduce from this is no one really knows if the 9S mechanism is the same as the crappy 8S mechanism. Gabe posted a link to this review of the 8S at CDFreaks earlier in this thread:

"This drive is fine with quite good quality for recorded CD-R. However the MTBF of its tray and disc sensing is area for improvement. I used this model as one of the daily CD-Rewriters in my CD-R plant and some of the SOHR-5238S are quite easy with problem on the tray or disc sensing. I bought 6 pieces SOHR-5238S and 3 of them with problems around using for 1 to 2 months, so I stopped on using this rewriter for daily inspection."

Is the MTBF of the 9S tray and disc sensing the same crappy one that's in the 8S or is it better? I apologize, but I can't seem to confirm ot deny this from the contents of this thread yet. Thank you.

PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 9:34 am
by code65536
SkaarjMaster wrote:OK, I'm really confused now. The only thing I can deduce from this is no one really knows if the 9S mechanism is the same as the crappy 8S mechanism.

The 9S should be using the new mechanism, as I pointed out in my earlier posts. The 8S does NOT use the new mechanism, so it HAS changed between the 8S and 9S. The 9S CD-RW mechanism should be similar to the SOHD-16P9S mechanism, which you should be familiar with. Does that clear up the confusion?