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spike at beginning of CDSpeed Quality Test

PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 9:15 am
by dodecahedron
sometimes (but not always i think) when i do a CDSpeed Quality Test on my Lite-On LTR-52327S, the start of the scan gets a really huge spike, basically rendering the scan useless (you can't see anything else because of the scale). i think this happens if i scan right after i first put the CD in the drive.

if i stop the scan and start a new one everything is fine.
see the pics below. that's the same disc, same drive.

anyone else get that?
any idea why that happens?
does this happen when scannig with KProbe too? (i don't use KProbe).

PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 10:08 am
by MediumRare
I use the original KProbe (1.29) for CD's, not CD-Speed and have not seen such a spike. (KProbe2 gives the same results as 1.29, but for various reasons, I prefer the old version).

Do you have the "remove glitch" (or similar) option checked?

Some people report somewhat different result with CD-Speed if they don't open the tray after a burn, but I think that was for DVD's.

I also occasionally had "funny" results with the very first scan with a new program version of firmware version, but don't remember if that was KProbe or CS-Speed or both.

G

PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 1:21 pm
by Scour
Hello!

Could it be that this spike only happens when the drive is spinning up? If u stop the first scan and start a new one the drive is still at high RPM.

PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 3:13 pm
by dodecahedron
yeah, but when you run a Quality Test, it spins up 10 seconds. always, even if the drive is already spinning!!!

i also thought that might have something to do with it, but since there's a 10 seconds spin-up i ruled it out. hmm...

PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 4:49 pm
by dolphinius_rex
dodecahedron wrote:yeah, but when you run a Quality Test, it spins up 10 seconds. always, even if the drive is already spinning!!!

i also thought that might have something to do with it, but since there's a 10 seconds spin-up i ruled it out. hmm...


I've had things messed up still, even with CDSpeed's initial spin up.

PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 11:40 pm
by dodecahedron
so do you think it's a spin-up issue (disc not properly spun up, speed not quite stabilized) ?

PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 11:19 am
by dolphinius_rex
dodecahedron wrote:so do you think it's a spin-up issue (disc not properly spun up, speed not quite stabilized) ?


Why not change your perspective on the problem a bit, and run it through the scan disc portion of Nero CD/DVD Speed? (Been a while since we've used THAT eh?).

PostPosted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 2:56 am
by dodecahedron
i don't get what's the point?
doesn't (the new) ScanDisc show the same info as DiscQuality ?

Re: spike at beginning of CDSpeed Quality Test

PostPosted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 11:58 am
by MediumRare
dodecahedron wrote:sometimes (but not always i think) when i do a CDSpeed Quality Test on my Lite-On LTR-52327S, the start of the scan gets a really huge spike, basically rendering the scan useless (you can't see anything else because of the scale). i think this happens if i scan right after i first put the CD in the drive.

if i stop the scan and start a new one everything is fine.
see the pics below. that's the same disc, same drive.

I think I know what's happening here (but not why it's happening or maybe it's vice versa :o).

I installed CD-Speed 4.10 at work 2 days ago and saw the same behaviour- huge error counts and then normal behaviour after stopping and restarting the scan. The same thing had happened a while ago at home- again after installing a new version.

So I think this (sometimes?) happens on the first scan after installing a new version of CD-Speed, but not afterwards.

Dodecahedron: did you just update CD-Speed prior to your post? As I said earlier, I usually use KProbe for CD's instead of CD-Speed, so I can't offer much experience on this count.

G

PostPosted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 12:35 pm
by dodecahedron
nope, that's not it.
i have the same version of CDSpeed for a while now, and this was repeatable.

PostPosted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 1:24 pm
by MediumRare
Well, then it's time to mail Erik Deppe about this. I've always found him to be very responsive. (At present he's busy with a new version 4.50 that'll have improved image handling).

G
(Edit: changed link to include thread context)

PostPosted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 1:40 pm
by dodecahedron
well, in that case i'll wait for 4.50. if this bug is still there i'll contact him.

PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 5:59 pm
by MediumRare
dodecahedron wrote:well, in that case i'll wait for 4.50. if this bug is still there i'll contact him.

It's out. So have you tried it? Does it fix the problem? Or is a mail underways?

G