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AOpen 52x24x52 out !...

PostPosted: Mon Nov 18, 2002 12:42 am
by eliminator
Image

:P

PostPosted: Mon Nov 18, 2002 2:24 pm
by jase
Hasn't that been out for some weeks now? I know my friendly on-line vendor has had OEM versions on sale!

BTW I am 99% sure that the 48x Aopen will OC to the 52x. Could be a cheap way of getting a 52x!! ;)

PostPosted: Mon Nov 18, 2002 5:52 pm
by Raz0rX
I also heard that this 52x writer can do SD 2.8 too but I have to ask the AOpen technician to confirm this.

PostPosted: Tue Nov 19, 2002 4:17 pm
by Raz0rX
Yep, the CRW5224 can backup games with SD 2.80.010, tried with NeedForSpeed:HotPursuit2, game played back perfectly.

PostPosted: Tue Nov 19, 2002 4:34 pm
by Ian
What software did you use?

PostPosted: Tue Nov 19, 2002 5:33 pm
by Raz0rX
The test was done by AOpen Tw. HQ:

1 MB:ASUS: P4S8X
2. OS: win2k
3. rw drive -- crw5224 f/m:1.01
4. software -- clonecd 4.10.1
5. Game title: need for speed _ hot pursuit 2 (safedisc 2.80.010, please check attached screenshot)
6. Process:
a. read image file by crw5224
b. copy image file to crw5224
c. installed need for speed and play car racing with crw5224 -- OK.

PostPosted: Tue Nov 19, 2002 5:57 pm
by Ian
Hmm.. it didn't say that they actually played the game. :wink:

They must have used that ATIP blocking thing if they played it from the drive.

PostPosted: Tue Nov 19, 2002 6:01 pm
by Raz0rX
Oh good point :o It would be best if you guys can review this unit eh 8) Any chance?

PostPosted: Tue Nov 19, 2002 6:29 pm
by Ian
We're hoping that it happens this time. AOpen has made a lot of promises in the past, but hasn't delivered on many of them for various reasons.

PostPosted: Tue Nov 19, 2002 8:34 pm
by Raz0rX
I have eMailed a reliable tech from AOAmerica and see if they can send out this drive for you to review once it's here.

PostPosted: Tue Nov 19, 2002 9:21 pm
by Ian
That would be cool. It's been much too long since we've reviewed an AOpen CD-RW.

PostPosted: Wed Nov 20, 2002 2:49 am
by eliminator
hmm... I'd really like to see that review too ! :P

PostPosted: Wed Nov 20, 2002 7:18 am
by lppnet
The 24x rw is using CAV or P-CAV?

PostPosted: Wed Nov 20, 2002 9:53 am
by Raz0rX
24x RW is done in CAV.

PostPosted: Wed Nov 20, 2002 11:50 am
by Harrier
No.
Done by the P-cav method.

http://www.aopen.com/products/cdrw/crw5224.htm

Can anyone here give the Aopen Crw 4850 writing specs'?

http://www.aopen.com/products/cdrw/crw4850.htm

PostPosted: Wed Nov 20, 2002 1:22 pm
by lppnet
Hope the Lite-on 52x also used P-CAV rather than CAV. The performance in term of time really make you wanted to opt for P-CAV drives. Don't you all agree.

PostPosted: Wed Nov 20, 2002 1:30 pm
by cfitz
It will make a big difference in overall average speed, assuming that the P-CAV gets up to 24x quickly. We are talking about ~18x average for CAV vs. ~24x average for a P-CAV drive that gets up to 24x quickly. Unforunately, as of now the LiteOn drives use CAV for 24x rewriting. I'm hoping for a firmware update to improve this.

cfitz

PostPosted: Wed Nov 20, 2002 1:51 pm
by Harrier
I really don't think it can be done (switching writing method with a firmware update).
And i don't think they would like to do that even if they could.

PostPosted: Wed Nov 20, 2002 1:55 pm
by cfitz
Harrier wrote:I really don't think it can be done (switching writing method with a firmware update).

It can be done and has been done. The LiteOn LTR-40125S went from Z-CLV to P-CAV.

cfitz

PostPosted: Wed Nov 20, 2002 4:41 pm
by Harrier
OH, right.. I remember asking Ian a question about it..

Anyway, that was done becasue Lite-on discovered that it's better using P-cav or Cav than Z-clv. From a variety of reasons (we all know).

PostPosted: Wed Nov 20, 2002 6:06 pm
by dodecahedron
Harrier wrote:Anyway, that was done becasue Lite-on discovered that it's better using P-cav or Cav than Z-clv. From a variety of reasons (we all know).

yeah, here we go with that discussion again... :o :D

PostPosted: Wed Nov 20, 2002 6:21 pm
by cfitz
dodecahedron wrote:
Harrier wrote:Anyway, that was done becasue Lite-on discovered that it's better using P-cav or Cav than Z-clv. From a variety of reasons (we all know).

yeah, here we go with that discussion again... :o :D

When it rains, it pours... This also just showed up in TheWizard's media compatibility thread here and of course you started all this with your post in the buffer underrun gap thread here. I think this is your bad karma coming back to haunt you for posting your views about Z-CLV vs. P-CAV/CAV in the buffer underrun thread despite your own admitted misgivings... :wink:

Okay everyone, FLAME WAR!! Everybody pile on to dodecahedron about Z-CLV vs. P-CAV vs. CAV!! :wink: (Please, I am just kidding - there is no need to start anything. Nothing to see here, just move along... :D )

cfitz