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Anybody bought Nashua 50 Cdr x 48 Spindlebox?

PostPosted: Sat Mar 08, 2003 12:31 pm
by Harrier
Would like to know some details about the quality and the manufacturer.
Thanks a lot.

PostPosted: Sat Mar 08, 2003 12:37 pm
by dodecahedron
according to this site
http://www.instantinfo.de/index_cdrohlinge_e.php
Nashua are either CMC, Prodisc or Mitsui.
i'm guessing it's not Mitsui.

PostPosted: Sat Mar 08, 2003 12:49 pm
by apu95
i havent tried this brand, but back in chile, a friend bought them all the time. made copies for me and musci cds, etc etc, and they worked perfectly well. in regards to length of storage, i cant really, say, but if you keep the cds stored safely then they should last a looong time....

Apu

PostPosted: Sat Mar 08, 2003 2:53 pm
by Harrier
dodecahedron wrote:according to this site
http://www.instantinfo.de/index_cdrohlinge_e.php
Nashua are either CMC, Prodisc or Mitsui.
i'm guessing it's not Mitsui.


Why not?
We should hope so.
So, if anyone has them.. Please report?

PostPosted: Sat Mar 08, 2003 3:59 pm
by dodecahedron
i would guess that Mitsui is very expensive...from my experience Nashua is not.
but if you find out that they are, let us know.
i've seen some Nashua for sale round here where i live (Israel) and if it's Mitsui i would buy some!

PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2003 8:09 am
by Harrier
Ok, so check Pandas man.
They have it in 48X spindlebox the price is 110 Shekels (which isn't that expensive) for 50 cd's. And i'm pretty sure it's Mitsui.

PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2003 12:25 pm
by cfitz
Harrier wrote:And i'm pretty sure it's Mitsui.

Not likely. The equivalent of $23 for 50 CD-R, in Israel, no less? I'd say dodecahedron has the right idea here. These are way too cheap to be Mitsui. What makes you think they are?

Even in the U.S., where prices are typically lower, Mitsui silver CDs go for $0.55 per disc and up, compared to the $0.46 per disc you are quoting. Sure, there is a chance you have found a super bargain, but I wouldn't get my hopes up too high if I were you.

cfitz

PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2003 1:31 pm
by dodecahedron
Harrier wrote:Ok, so check Pandas man.
They have it in 48X spindlebox the price is 110 Shekels (which isn't that expensive) for 50 cd's. And i'm pretty sure it's Mitsui.

i'm pretty sure it is not. :(
110 shekels (approx $22 including tax) is not bad for a 50-spindle.
but don't forget the 39 shekels shipping. :o

anyway, why not buy them and see what they are? and let me know.
if they turn out to be Mitsui then sure, i'll buy some too!

PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2003 4:02 pm
by aznjosh
i didn't know isreal had computers.......... or electricity for that matter. no joke.

PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2003 4:14 pm
by Harrier
aznjosh wrote:i didn't know isreal had computers.......... or electricity for that matter. no joke.


Yeah sure, i ride on my camel to school everyday.

Dude! our neighbors just got new electronic device.. It's the latest word of food handling. It actually heats up the food so you could eat it warm! What do they call it... A micro something.. A Microwave maybe?

PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2003 4:25 pm
by dodecahedron
not wanting to be bragging....
Israel has the largest development center of Intel outside of the US.
large manufacturing plants too.

yeah, i know, the electicity to drive those plants/R&D facilities comes from donkeys going around in circles outside by the Olive trees...or maybe it was hamsters on a wheel...? :D

PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2003 7:25 pm
by aznjosh
well, after seeing pictures of afghanistan and iran and all those other middle east countries. i thought isreal to be like tat with everyone owning ak47's and street fighting the palestines. you know, like tat one movie Navy Seals.

PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2003 7:37 pm
by cfitz
Aznjosh, please drop this line of posts. You are doing nothing but embarrassing yourself, and flame baiting is prohibited on the forums. Please review the posting rules, particularly numbers one, three and seven:

http://www.cdrlabs.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=8914

Let's show some respect for fellow forum members from all nations and cultures.

cfitz

PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2003 12:19 pm
by jase
Yes, I think now of all times a bit of diplomacy is in order :o

Israel is no Afghanistan, that's for sure. Economically well developed, even if politically it is somewhat, well, let's say "troubled"......

Anyways, Nashua is/was an Anglo-German company, which I thought had disappeared a while ago actually. Virtually all their media I've seen was CMC, with one batch from an unknown "4M" factory.

PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2003 2:02 pm
by dimitri
Are we talking countries or media here? :o

Nashua is a reputable company. They sell quality products which carry a lifetime guarantee. I'm using their cd-r, cd-rw and diskettes for years and they never let me down.

8)

PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2003 10:55 am
by dimitri
Just bought a 25 spindle. 700Mb 52x speed. it's a Prodisc, made in Hongkong. Burnt 4 data cd's and tested them with CdSpeed's Scandisc, file and surface. All 4 100% no errors, 100% all green squares.
Nice! 8)

I can hardly say the same for any Verbatim, Fuji or recent Philips I burnt.

PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2003 1:21 pm
by Harrier
100% green?
That's not a big deal.
Try running it through cd doctor.

PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2003 1:48 pm
by dimitri
Harrier wrote:100% green?
That's not a big deal.
Try running it through cd doctor.

No, I won't.
I've already tested them with Disk Verifier on top of Cd Speed's tests.
4 cd's passed 3 tests with 100% - they ARE good in my book :D

PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2003 2:01 pm
by dodecahedron
dimitri wrote:No, I won't.
I've already tested them with Disk Verifier on top of Cd Speed's tests.
4 cd's passed 3 tests with 100% - they ARE good in my book :D

what's Disk Verifier?
can you give a link?

PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2003 2:13 pm
by dimitri
dodecahedron wrote: what's Disk Verifier?
can you give a link?

Oh sorry, it's just a part of Fix-It utilitities 4, form Ontrack, which is now in the hands of V-com :
http://www.v-com.com/product/fi_ind.html

PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2003 2:41 pm
by cfitz
I've never used it, but looking at the link you supplied, I would guess that Fix-It's disc verifier, when used on a CD, just ensures that the file system isn't corrupted and doesn't do lower-level testing and diagnostics. In other words, if a CD tests out with no errors on CD Speed so that all sectors are readable bit-wise, then there is no reason to expect Fix-It would find any problems independently (unless your burning software has a bug and messed up the image prior to burning). Is that true, or does Fix-It test more for a CD?

cfitz

PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2003 5:04 pm
by dimitri
You're right, Disk Verifer just checks for readability, it's nothing to write home about and I wasn't trying to sell it either. In case of errors it will list the files that couldn't be read, that's all.

PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2003 5:29 pm
by cfitz
Okay thanks. I'm always interested in hearing about new tools that might be useful for testing CD-R quality.

cfitz

PostPosted: Sat Mar 22, 2003 8:21 am
by Harrier
Some updating:
A local store has offered a collect sale of Nashua Spindlebox 50+2 cds, rated at 52X for about 16.5$. That's around 0.3$ per cdr.

I should wonder who's the manufacturer of these particular cds?

PostPosted: Sat Mar 22, 2003 12:00 pm
by dodecahedron
guessing, based on dimitri's post, they are Prodisc.
that's supposed to be not bad at all. why not go for it?

dimitri wrote:Just bought a 25 spindle. 700Mb 52x speed. it's a Prodisc, made in Hongkong. Burnt 4 data cd's and tested them with CdSpeed's Scandisc, file and surface. All 4 100% no errors, 100% all green squares.
Nice! 8)

I can hardly say the same for any Verbatim, Fuji or recent Philips I burnt.