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Format CDRW with InCD 4.0.1.0

PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2003 2:08 pm
by ncw
Not an entirely new topic, but I seem to be getting even smaller formatted space with InCD than other correspondents.
With InCD I get about 430 Mbytes on a 650 Mbyte CDRW (machine runs Win2k professional); if I format the same disc with Roxio software (on another machine, Win98) I get about 530 Mbytes.

I know I loose some space for the packet-writing software and file structure - but should I really get 100 Mbytes less with InCD than with Roxio?
If this will be fixed by a new release of InCD 4.xxx, when is this due?

PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2003 6:35 pm
by CDRecorder
I haven't heard about this problem before, but you could try updating to the newest version of InCD at www.nero.com.

Re: Format CDRW with InCD 4.0.1.0

PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2003 12:35 am
by kaikow
The amount of space lost very much depends on the sequence in which you write the files and how big ar the file chunks.

Each packet written has significant overhead, so a fair comparison can be done only by performing an identical sequence of drags and pastes of files.

Re: Format CDRW with InCD 4.0.1.0

PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2003 4:01 am
by dburg
ncw wrote:If this will be fixed by a new release of InCD 4.xxx, when is this due?


Well, this should be already fixed in 4.0.1.21. Which version are you using?

PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2003 1:15 pm
by ncw
David

I put the version in my original message 'subject'.
InCD 'About' shows 4.0.1.0
I only downloaded it on 29 June!
I am now down-loading 4.0.1.21, I assume I should uninstall 4.0.1.0 rather than installing 'over the top'?
Hopefull y that will fix this 'problem'.

Thanks

PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2003 1:20 pm
by CDRecorder
You can probably install the new version of InCD over your old one.

BTW, InCD is being updated very frequently lately; I think it's because InCD 4 is so new.

PostPosted: Fri Aug 01, 2003 6:46 am
by ncw
A new installation with InCD 4.0.1.21 seems to have done the trick.
I'm now getting 531 Mbytes as hoped.

Many thanks for the help.

PostPosted: Fri Aug 01, 2003 10:29 am
by CDRecorder
I'm glad to hear that it's working properly! :D

PostPosted: Fri Aug 01, 2003 7:56 pm
by kaikow
I've just noticed that InCD 3.5.24.0 does indeed fragment files very badly.
Hopefully, this problem is fixed in the latest version of InCD.

For example, I am backing up the Dantz Retrospect catalog files to CD-RW media.

There are 4 files. Two are about 85MB each, call them files A and B, and two are about 6MB each, so there's plenty of room on the media.

Running ISOBuster, I am informed that the two 85MB files are fragmented.
What does InCD do when I Copy file A to the CD-RW when file A already exists?


It would seem that it would need to put the new copy in different sectors than the original, so the new copy should not be fragmented since there's plenty of room on the media. Of course, the original A on te CD-RW would be deleted AFTER the copy operation was completed.

As a experiment, I deleted both files A and B on the CD-RW and then did a copy of A, then a copy of B, expecting that both would be recorded without fragmentation.

According to ISOBuster A was recorded without fragmentation, but B was fragmented.

Being a stubborn cuss, I deleted B and tried again. This time ISOBuster reported that B had been recorded without fragmentation.

So, at least in InCD 3.5.24.0, I must wonder about why such fragmentation occurs.