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HyperX vs Corsair XMS vs OCZ Performance

PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2003 10:23 am
by CignaXI
I recently bought a mobo ASUS A7N8X. My memory options were

OCZ DDR PC-3200 Performance Series Memory 256MB Model# OCZ400256R2 OCZ DDR 256MB PC-3200 Performance Series w/ Copper heatspreader, performance memory for PC enthusiasts, CAS2.0 DDR 400Mhz memory, Lifetime Warranty - OCZ400256R2. Model#: OCZ400256R2 -OEM

OCZ DDR PC-2700 Proformance Series Memory 256MB Model# OCZ333256R32
Specifications:
OCZ DDR 256MB PC-2700 Performance Series w/ Aluminum heatspreader, performance memory for PC enthusiasts,
CAS2.0
DDR 333Mhz memory,
Lifetime Warranty, -
OCZ333256R32. Model#: OCZ333256R32 -OEM

KINGSTON HyperX Series 184-pin 256MB DDR400 (PC3200) 32X64 DDR RAM modules, Model# KHX3200/256
Specifications:
Type: Kingston HyperX
Capacity: 256MB
Speed: DDR 400 (PC 3200)
Latency: CAS Latency 2 (2-2-2-6-1T) Model#: KHX3200/256

KINGSTON HyperX Series 184-pin 256MB DDR333 (PC2700) 32X64 DDR RAM modules, Model# KHX2700/256
Specifications:
Type: Kingston HyperX
Capacity: 256MB
Speed: DDR 333 (PC 2700)
Latency: CAS Latency 2 (2-2-2-5-1T) Model#: KHX2700/256

CORSAIR MEMORY XMS Extreme Memory Speed Series 256MB 32MX8 PC-3200C2 With Heat Spreader OEM
Specifications:
Speed 400MHz
Organization 64M x 64
CAS Latency 2-3-3-6-T1
Memory type DDR
Part number: CMX256A-3200C2 Model#: CMX256A-3200C2 -OEM

CORSAIR MEMORY XMS Extreme Memory Speed Series CMX256A-2700C2 C2 256MB PC2700 DDR RAM Single-size FASTER 333MHz - OEM
CMX256A-2700C2. DDR, PC2700 32x64, Non-ECC, 184-Pin, CAS2 -Unbuffered Requires DDR supported Motherboard - Lifetime Warranty. Model#: CMX256A-2700C2 -OEM

CORSAIR MEMORY XMS Extreme Memory Speed Series 256MB 32MX64 PC-2700C2PT With Platinum - Silver Heat Spreader OEM
Specifications:
Speed 333 MHz
Organization 32M x 64
CAS Latency 2-3-3-6-T1
Memory type DDR
Part number: CMX256A-2700C2PT Model#: CMX256A-2700C2PT -OEM

Which one would you choose?

KINGSTON HYPERx

PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2003 10:03 pm
by hammad
i think you should choose kingston hyperx ddr 400 if you wnt to overclock or use a barton core pro with 200fsb in the future.

otherwise you should buy the corsair xms 256a-2700ll. ddr 333 that should be more then enough.

PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2003 12:07 pm
by CignaXI
I have read in other forums that some HyperX modules are having problems in dual channel mode.

PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2003 10:54 pm
by hammad
try the mushkin

http://www.mushkin.com/cgi-bin/Mushkin. ... iew/991031

they are the pioneer of the most stable and overclocking ram from years
back (the sdram days.

OR

try the OCZ PLATINUM DUEL channel

http://www.ocztechnology.com/products/m ... .php?id=26

or the ultimate ram

CORSAIR XMS TWINX 512-3200ll

matched pair,its considered the most stable as well as most expensive.
its not widely available in canada so i dont know its exact pricing
you can choose from MUSHKIN ,OCZ and CORSAIR
according to the price but personaly ill give my vote to MUSHKIN.

PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2003 11:20 pm
by CignaXI
The thing is that I'm in a budget and can't afford does memories. The only I can afford are the ones already mentioned.

PostPosted: Thu May 22, 2003 7:47 am
by hammad
http://www.ocztechnology.com/products/m ... .php?id=23
this is the best ddr 333 available on ocz site optimized for dual channel.

http://www.mushkin.com/cgi-bin/Mushkin. ... iew/991050
there is a promo build available at mushkin.com for only 55$
for 256mb ddr400 cas 2-2-2.

PostPosted: Thu May 22, 2003 10:59 am
by TheWizard
Umm, CignaXI, no offense, but if you are on a budget then you should not be thinking about Performance, Hyper, or Extreme anything memory! :P Just get some normal PC2700 or PC3200 Kingston RAM.

PostPosted: Thu May 22, 2003 5:44 pm
by CignaXI
Wizard, you just have been hypnotized by the names of the memories. All the memories that I have mentioned are economic (Maybe with the exception of Kingston's HyperX), they don't go higher than $60.00 (at least in newegg). The really high performing low latency memories, like does that hammad mentioned, vary from $75.00-up.

PS: First I was considering to buy some 2700 but 3200 were about the same price.

PostPosted: Sat May 24, 2003 4:36 am
by TheWizard
Hypnotized? I don't believe I am. 256MB PC2700 DDR RAM is under $30 at Newegg and 256MB PC3200 DDR RAM is under $45. Now then, I suck at math, but I at least know $45 is less than $60 and $30 is half of $60. Thus, I reiterate, for a man on a budget, just get some normal PC2700 or PC3200 Kingston RAM. :) The prices quoted above are for Corsair Value Select RAM, quite good and comparable to Kingston, I would say.

PostPosted: Sun May 25, 2003 1:23 am
by CignaXI
I'm sorry Wizard; you were right. I should have been more specific, my budget for memory is $60 max per stick. I'm planning to buy two 256 sticks CL2. The ones that hammad first recommended me were out of my budget and the ones that are cheaper just have lower timings, since I can spend a little more but not too much I was considering the ones I already mentioned. I decided I will go for the HyperXs. If they don't work fine I'll exchange them for the corsair.

PS: Some of the memories that I mentioned are in that range 30's-40's and the others don't go higher than 60.

PostPosted: Sun May 25, 2003 1:31 pm
by blakerwry
You don't think you might be limiting yourself to too little RAM that way? Personally, I'd get a single stick of 512MB Kingston... later you can upgrade to another 512MB stick ... by buying 256MB sticks now you're pretty much guaranteeing that you'll be getting rid of them within a year or so.

PostPosted: Sun May 25, 2003 2:13 pm
by CignaXI
Didn't thought about that, the order is already made and I can't do nothing. Maybe about a year from now DDRII will be already out and DDR will be cheaper, I hope!

PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2003 3:00 am
by TheWizard
The good thing, since you are using the A7N8X, is that the board has three RAM slots. So, down the road, if you want to upgrade the RAM, you can add another stick of 512MB giving you a total of 1GB.

PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2003 4:37 pm
by CignaXI
If I use the third dimm slot would the board still be running in dual channel mode? Although there’s not too much difference in performance.

PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2003 4:53 am
by CignaXI
blakerwry wrote:You don't think you might be limiting yourself to too little RAM that way? Personally, I'd get a single stick of 512MB Kingston... later you can upgrade to another 512MB stick ... by buying 256MB sticks now you're pretty much guaranteeing that you'll be getting rid of them within a year or so.


from nforcershq:
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Q. How do I set up Dual Channel DDR/TwinBank/DualDDR optimally?
A. In order for DualDDR memory to run at it's optimal speed, you need to have an equal amount of RAM in each channel. Slots 1 and 2 are channel 1, and slot 3 is channel 2. Right now I've got 256MB in slot 2, and 256MB in slot 3. This means 256MB in each channel. If I was to upgrade and wanted to keep full Dual DDR, I would need a 512MB stick, and put it in slot 3, and the 256MB sticks in slots 1 & 2. This would give me 512MB in each channel, and an equal balance. This would give me an optimal Dual DDR setup.
If I were to have, say, 512MB in one channel, and 256MB in the other, only 256MB of the channel with the 512MB stick would be running in Dual DDR, since the channels would not be balanced. The rest of the 512MB stick would run in standard single channel mode, giving below optimal performance.
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So, actually is the same thing, buying two 256 meg sticks or just one 512mb to later buy more sticks. Since 1 gig memories stick have never been cheap (to balance the third channel with the two first 512 mb sticks), I think that 256 sticks are a better option; later I can buy a 512 stick and have 1gb of memory. That is only if you want to run in Dual DDR mode.

PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 2003 3:40 pm
by Alexandrus
Get the Kingston HyperX 3200(although some people have trouble with them on nForce2) or the OCZ PC3200 rev. 2.

PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2003 4:25 am
by blakerwry
CignaXI wrote:
blakerwry wrote:You don't think you might be limiting yourself to too little RAM that way? Personally, I'd get a single stick of 512MB Kingston... later you can upgrade to another 512MB stick ... by buying 256MB sticks now you're pretty much guaranteeing that you'll be getting rid of them within a year or so.


from nforcershq:
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Q. How do I set up Dual Channel DDR/TwinBank/DualDDR optimally?
A. In order for DualDDR memory to run at it's optimal speed, you need to have an equal amount of RAM in each channel. Slots 1 and 2 are channel 1, and slot 3 is channel 2. Right now I've got 256MB in slot 2, and 256MB in slot 3. This means 256MB in each channel. If I was to upgrade and wanted to keep full Dual DDR, I would need a 512MB stick, and put it in slot 3, and the 256MB sticks in slots 1 & 2. This would give me 512MB in each channel, and an equal balance. This would give me an optimal Dual DDR setup.
If I were to have, say, 512MB in one channel, and 256MB in the other, only 256MB of the channel with the 512MB stick would be running in Dual DDR, since the channels would not be balanced. The rest of the 512MB stick would run in standard single channel mode, giving below optimal performance.
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So, actually is the same thing, buying two 256 meg sticks or just one 512mb to later buy more sticks. Since 1 gig memories stick have never been cheap (to balance the third channel with the two first 512 mb sticks), I think that 256 sticks are a better option; later I can buy a 512 stick and have 1gb of memory. That is only if you want to run in Dual DDR mode.



Although the manual says you can do it that way(depending on how you infer it), I think you'll have problems trying. It's not that big a deal to ebay the RAM later and buy whole new RAM.