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PostPosted: Sat Jun 19, 2004 1:50 am
by pranav81
BTW,Ian why did you not go for 875?If you want you can exchange the board for the newer Neo2-PFS or Neo2-PFISR.
The URL is as below,

http://www.msicomputer.com/product/p_li ... s=mb&cpu=1




::Pranav::

PostPosted: Sat Jun 19, 2004 12:58 pm
by Ian
It was a freebie. \:D/

PostPosted: Sun Jun 20, 2004 1:34 am
by pranav81
Well then replacement is out of question I think. :roll:



::Pranav::

PostPosted: Sun Jun 20, 2004 9:14 am
by Kennyshin
I'm waiting for a motherboard that has built-in dual GbE, 8-ch. S-ATA, PCI Express, etc. :D

PostPosted: Sun Jun 20, 2004 8:18 pm
by grouch
Prescott (E) (1MB) vs. Northwood (C) (512K)
Someone mentioned that a Northwood would be better than Prescott at the 2.8 Ghz.
Why is that??
Shouldn't a 1MB cache be better than a 512K cache regardless of the speed??

PostPosted: Sun Jun 20, 2004 9:50 pm
by Kennyshin
grouch wrote:Prescott (E) (1MB) vs. Northwood (C) (512K)
Someone mentioned that a Northwood would be better than Prescott at the 2.8 Ghz.
Why is that??
Shouldn't a 1MB cache be better than a 512K cache regardless of the speed??


Better but the added 512KB L2 does not seem to do much benefits yet. Wait since new processors and motherboards are alwaysing added.

http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/akiba/ho ... _i_cp.html
http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/akiba/ho ... _i_ml.html

PostPosted: Mon Jun 21, 2004 12:36 pm
by dr_st
grouch wrote:Prescott (E) (1MB) vs. Northwood (C) (512K)
Someone mentioned that a Northwood would be better than Prescott at the 2.8 Ghz.
Why is that??
Shouldn't a 1MB cache be better than a 512K cache regardless of the speed??


The Prescott is not just a bigger cache, it's also has some architectural changes, so the formula is not that simple. Tests have shown that in some applications the Prescott wins, while in others it loses to the Northwood.

PostPosted: Mon Jun 21, 2004 11:03 pm
by Ian
I finally pulled that motherboard out. I came home today and it wouldn't load Windows. It would restart before it would load all the way. I finally went back and tried reinstalling Windows, but it kept failing.

Blah.. so much for freebies. Time to go buy a mobo. Recommend me one with a 865/875 chipset. This system won't be overclocked, but I need SATA and USB.

PostPosted: Wed Jun 23, 2004 4:13 pm
by dr_st
You can go with one of the ASUS boards:

ASUS P4P800-E Deluxe (865 Chipset)
ASUS P4C800-E Deluxe (875 Chipset)

Since you don't plan to overclock, I'd say the first one is a much better choice, because for a lower price you can get a board that performs almost as well as the 875 boards. With the right memory and some BIOS tweaking it can actually outperform most of the 875 boards. It's also loaded with features - 4 PATA, 4 SATA channels, RAID, 8 USB, 2 FireWire ports, Gigabit LAN, 8-channel onboard audio with a complete set of analog and digital outputs.

However, ASUS boards can get picky about other hardware (RAM mostly). If you want something that's guaranteed to work out of the box, get an ABIT (AI7 for the 865 chipset or IC7-MAX3 for the 875 chipset).

PostPosted: Fri Jun 25, 2004 8:44 pm
by Ian
Finally heard back from MSI. They think its a bad southbridge chip since they've had a few other customers with problems similar to mine. They're sending their 875 board to replace it. Hopefully this one will work. [-o<