Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2003 4:01 pm
@Flyer:
i apologize, i was in a pissy mood.
you of course have a right to your own opinions and to air them here.
i have the right to disagree.
@jase:
power corrupts.
i'm one of those that think we have no business in the West Bank, and that the Palestinians should have their own state.
be that as it may, i think that on the whole, Israel is on the higher side of the moral scales.
Israeli soldiers do not go into Hebron or whatever with orders to shoot and kill Palestinian children and women (and men for that matter too). these things do happen. surprise surprise, when terrorists (or freedomm fighters if you will, i don't really care) hide behind women and childen when fighting with soldiers, or when children throw rocks at rifle bearing soldiers (and believe me, a rock can kill), these things will happen.
i'm not saying that these things are justified, but one has to understand that they will happen.
look at the US in Iraq. suddenly the US isn't so critical of the Israeli's army behaviour in the West Nank is it? the US now faces what we face here.
Western Europe is oh my so enlightened, isn't it?
just have a look at your own history.
Bloody Sunday was just one incident. the most extreme one perhaps. but there were others.
look at what the French did in North Africa and Vietnam. what Israel is doing in the west bank looks like a picnic by comparison.
honestly, i didn't mean to post in this topic again. but was drawn back to it.
i hate politics.
and even more i hate politicians. 99.9% of them are corrupt to some degree.
i apologize, i was in a pissy mood.
you of course have a right to your own opinions and to air them here.
i have the right to disagree.
@jase:
power corrupts.
i'm one of those that think we have no business in the West Bank, and that the Palestinians should have their own state.
be that as it may, i think that on the whole, Israel is on the higher side of the moral scales.
Israeli soldiers do not go into Hebron or whatever with orders to shoot and kill Palestinian children and women (and men for that matter too). these things do happen. surprise surprise, when terrorists (or freedomm fighters if you will, i don't really care) hide behind women and childen when fighting with soldiers, or when children throw rocks at rifle bearing soldiers (and believe me, a rock can kill), these things will happen.
i'm not saying that these things are justified, but one has to understand that they will happen.
look at the US in Iraq. suddenly the US isn't so critical of the Israeli's army behaviour in the West Nank is it? the US now faces what we face here.
Western Europe is oh my so enlightened, isn't it?
just have a look at your own history.
Bloody Sunday was just one incident. the most extreme one perhaps. but there were others.
look at what the French did in North Africa and Vietnam. what Israel is doing in the west bank looks like a picnic by comparison.
honestly, i didn't mean to post in this topic again. but was drawn back to it.
i hate politics.
and even more i hate politicians. 99.9% of them are corrupt to some degree.
what's the difference between a Statesman and a Politician?
a Statesman is a dead Politician.
God knows, we need more Statesmen.