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for everyone who is so caught up in the USA election

PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2004 8:07 pm
by MonteLDS

PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2004 10:11 pm
by hoxlund
kick ass, aviationwiz please click it or get a ticket ;)

PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2004 12:02 am
by aviationwiz
Seen it dozens of times.

PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2004 2:18 am
by dolphinius_rex
seen it and shared it lot's of times! :D

PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2004 10:21 am
by LoneWolf
Funny...sad and funny, really.

Sad that moderates can no longer get a party nomination for high office anymore.

I'm still writing in McCain/Feingold for 2004. At least I can say I didn't vote for Bush or Kerry.

PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2004 9:02 am
by VEFF
Thanks Monte!

PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2004 10:58 am
by Boba_Fett
LoneWolf wrote:Funny...sad and funny, really.

Sad that moderates can no longer get a party nomination for high office anymore.

I'm still writing in McCain/Feingold for 2004. At least I can say I didn't vote for Bush or Kerry.


Seriously though, why throw away your vote like that? You know for sure McCain himself knows he can't do anything. Like it or not, this is a two party country... and those two couldn't be more opposite.

PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2004 2:23 pm
by LoneWolf
Boba_Fett wrote:
LoneWolf wrote:Funny...sad and funny, really.

Sad that moderates can no longer get a party nomination for high office anymore.

I'm still writing in McCain/Feingold for 2004. At least I can say I didn't vote for Bush or Kerry.


Seriously though, why throw away your vote like that? You know for sure McCain himself knows he can't do anything. Like it or not, this is a two party country... and those two couldn't be more opposite.


Actually, McCain and Feingold have cooperated on plenty of legislation, and one tends to forget, there are a lot of moderates in each party, problem being that a GOP or Dem. party would never choose a moderate as a presidential candidate, because they weren't leaning enough to the right or the left.

As for "throwing away my vote", some would believe that voting for a candidate with no chance of winning would be doing that. However, I believe that the true throwing away of my vote would be to vote for values I don't believe in. I will never believe in Kerry...and Bush is only the slightly lesser of two evils, IMO. Both of them compromise major values of mine, though in different areas. I haven't analyzed Nader enough to decide I'd vote for him. The candidates I've looked at have so far failed in the primaries of the past few elections:

John McCain
Steve Forbes
Joe Lieberman

I want someone elected who will do his (or her) best to do what he/she believes is right, and is grounded in the desires of the average citizen. Yes, I know that's nigh on impossible, but I had hopes that the three above would be more likely. Neither Bush, nor Kerry, IMO, are looking out for the interests of the American people...and I find that very sad.

PostPosted: Thu Jul 29, 2004 5:57 pm
by Shredder
aviationwiz wrote:The last time someone listened to a Bush, they wandered around in the desert for 40 years, don't make that mistake


:D Good sig.

PostPosted: Thu Jul 29, 2004 6:13 pm
by Boba_Fett
Shredder wrote:
aviationwiz wrote:The last time someone listened to a Bush, they wandered around in the desert for 40 years, don't make that mistake


:D Good sig.


I thought it was extremely sacrilegious and ill-conceived myself [-X But then again, aviationwiz IS a democrat :p

Oh, and LoneWolf, I think Steve Forbes would have made a EXCELLENT president. The flat-tax thing would have brought us into a new age of prosperity.

PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2004 11:09 am
by LoneWolf
I found it sacreligious myself, though to each their own faith.

BF, the flat tax was one of the biggest reasons I wished Forbes to be elected (he actually did carry the primary here in Michigan in 1996 I believe), along with the fact that he wasn't a career politician, and he had values.

Note: McCain, probably the highest choice on my list, carried the 2004 primary here (a key reason why Michigan's governor didn't make the Vice Presidential slot, as he was tasked to get the Bush vote out). I think we just want someone who stands for the people and believes in a just and fair government backed by solid values. That, and our governor began to care more about national politics than taking care of the state that elected him.

PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2004 10:33 pm
by wicked1
Good video link =D>

Nader all the way

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