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CloneDVD released

PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2003 12:30 pm
by Ian
CloneDVD Version 1.1.4.1

http://www.elby.ch/en/products/clone_dvd/

Copies movies in top quality!
Extracts, transcodes and writes any orginal DVD title you like to a single recordable DVD
You can include or exclude the original menu
Uses high-quality transcoding technology
EXTRA CRUNCHY: Crunches (compresses) your choice of DVD titles with your selected Audio- and Subtitle Streams to one DVD Recordable
Impressive program speed
Video Preview plays an overview of all selectable DVD titles
Very easy to use: Our unique Film Strip will guide you step by step through all settings - very suitable for beginners!
Image Quality: With an average selection of Audio- and Subtitle streams you will not notice a difference in comparison to the original. No block-artefacts
Preferences: Memorizes the last settings that were made by the user and proposes it the next time the program starts
Works with most hardware and software DVD Players
Writes on DVD-R/RW and DVD+R/RW
Stable and fast, does not need an ASPI driver
Distinguished technical support und customer care
24 hours, 7 days a week access to new updates and online help

Download it!

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2003 12:50 pm
by BurninMan921
Didn't someone alread post about DVD-Shrink 2.3 being out? Oh, wait...this is *CloneDVD*...my bad.

End of sarcasm; but this sounds ALOT like the FREE DVD-Shrink program.
It better be a heck of alot better than DVD-Shrink if they expect people to pay for it.

PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2003 12:56 pm
by Ian
My thoughts exactly, especially when they want $48.42 for it.

PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2003 1:22 pm
by tazdevl
Fair number of differences. These guys are legit, CloneCD has served us all well at one time or another.

Pricing is a bit higher than I expected. I was hoping it would come in ~$25-30, then it would sell pretty well.

I'm in the process of messing around with it at the moment, we'll see how it compares to DVDShrink. Probably do a long movie like Harry Potter... that's always a good way to test the compression algorithms.

The nice thing about clonedvd is that it an all in 1 package. No need to decrypt, encode and burn with 3 separate programs. I'm sure output will be solid.

There was a "preview" done on a French site...

http://www.blue-hardware.com/dossiers/clonedvd/

PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2003 1:33 pm
by hoxlund
dvdshrink does all that too, it decrypts/rips, re-authorizes the dvd, if need be

can drag and drop features you want left out or not

i just started up clonedvd and i don't see decrypting anywhere, every option i see you have to have the video_ts folder already which means you have already decrypted/ripped the dvd movie to hard drive

PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2003 1:39 pm
by tazdevl
Check the help files hox, just point it to the DVD.

PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2003 1:45 pm
by hoxlund
yeah wow, how usefull, says:

CloneDVD does not backup copy-protected dvds!

then goes on about CSS and how its not going to do it

PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2003 1:47 pm
by aviationwiz
It seems to me tazdevl, that you are going to have a hard time copying Harry Potter entirely with this program. Well, I have officialy classified this program as POS. Piece of Sh*t.

PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2003 1:49 pm
by hoxlund
dvd shrink has won my heart

PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2003 1:51 pm
by tazdevl
LOL I just got a critical error.

WriteDVD 09

You should be able to direct it to the DVD and have it load it up. Aint working.

Looks like decrypting is the way to go... so the benefits of the program aren't that great, especially at its price.

I do want to see how it compares quality wise.

PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2003 2:12 pm
by hoxlund
dvd shrink can maintain full digital aspect of movie, without any quality loss, unless you do compression to fit a dual layer movie on 1 dvd-r/+r

but even still ive copied american history x with dvd shrink using 35% compression and i still can't tell the difference between the copied and the original, other than no menus or extra features

PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2003 2:16 pm
by tazdevl
It's free for 30 days... worst case, if it sucks I won't buy it :D

PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2003 2:27 pm
by Ian
hoxlund wrote:yeah wow, how usefull, says:

CloneDVD does not backup copy-protected dvds!

then goes on about CSS and how its not going to do it


Yeah hox, I saw this too:

NOTE: CloneDVD does not backup copy-protected DVDs! Many DVDs are Content Scrambling System (CSS) encoded, which is a copy-protection file system. If a DVD is CSS-encoded then the DVD reader will refuse to access the disc. Therefore CloneDVD cannot read the files and make a copy.

PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2003 2:34 pm
by tazdevl
Only reason I can think of is that the MPAA has been pretty aggressive. Perhaps this is their way of side-stepping any potential lawsuits.

PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2003 2:51 pm
by BurninMan921
It's like having a new version of InstantCopy :-?

Yuck...I'll stick with Shrink. The only thing this can do that Shrink can't is burn. But, ImgTool is free, and (depending on the version) can either use Nero to burn or create an ISO which DVD Decrypter can burn. So, 3 freeware programs and you can copy any DVD....

PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2003 4:05 pm
by hoxlund
yeah what i do is just use dvd shrink to re-authroize, or decrypt entire dvd, then just burn with nero

clone dvd vs dvd x copy

PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2003 5:18 pm
by dellboy
I HAVE A SIMPLE QUESTION TO ANYONE,
IS THE NEW CLONE DVD AS GOOD AS DVD X COPY.

DELL.

PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2003 5:24 pm
by hoxlund
no dvdxcopy and clonedvd are crappy

you can't copy a copied movie with dvdxcopy for example

PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2003 5:28 pm
by aviationwiz
Well,

Most people don't do what you do with them, so they don't care about that.

dellboy: If you just want to easily make copies of DVD's, I recomend you stay with DVDXCopy.

PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2003 9:40 pm
by Ian
Anyone know whatever happened to the "other" CloneDVD?

The one here...

http://www.clonedvd.net

PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2003 10:32 pm
by hoxlund
want me to try it out?

PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2003 3:00 am
by tazdevl
OK for those of you that weren't aware (though I'm sure most of you are)... figured out how to get the damn thing to work.

Here's how:
1) Need to use DVD Decrypter
2) DD has to be set in File under the mode menu
3) Hit Control-A to select all files
4) Decrypt

Once you get that part done, just point the app to the files you yanked.

Couple things I saw that I didnt' like:

1) Can't select start and end points to save extra space
2) Doesn't indicate the size of audio tracks, compressed movie etc... so if DTS is close in size to AC3, why not use it.
3) Everything is done automatically, can't set things up the way you want like in DVDShrink.

PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2003 3:08 am
by dhc014
tazdevl wrote:There was a "preview" done on a French site...

http://www.blue-hardware.com/dossiers/clonedvd/


cdfreaks should be doing a nice review of it, so I read.

PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2003 4:12 am
by tazdevl
Just finished up comparing DVDShrink and CloneDVD backups of Blade 2 and Die Another Day.

DVDShrink has a better picture (sharper, colors separation, darker colors don't look washed out) and more control. Guess who wins?

Compared on a Sony 36" XBR WEGA and a Denon DVM-4800.

By the way, I'm just using Nero to burn a video DVD.

Tried burning a plain UDF and DVD player didn't like it.

Anyone know if the "force DVD compatibility" box in the UDF menus would help at all? The note says it should be checked for Xbox, but I'm wonder if it helps across the board.

PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2003 6:59 pm
by dodecahedron
tazdevl wrote:It's free for 30 days... worst case, if it sucks I won't buy it :D
i'm sorry, what do you mean by that?
the download from their site is a free 30-day limited trial version?