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Plextor 712A

PostPosted: Tue Mar 09, 2004 10:13 pm
by NoLimit
Plextor Japan announces the Plextor 712A


Writing Speeds :
DVD+R 12X
DVD+RW 4X
DVD-R 8X
DVD-RW 4X
CD-R 48X
CD-RW 24X

Reading Speeds :
DVD-ROM 16X
DVD±R/RW 12X
CDR 48X
CDRW 40X

Buffer : 8MB





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PostPosted: Tue Mar 09, 2004 10:36 pm
by vsekh
Looks like Plextor is going to be the first one out with a 12x dvd-burner unless Philips comes out with theirs first.

PostPosted: Tue Mar 09, 2004 11:01 pm
by aviationwiz
Oh my god, No, No, No. I just bought the damn DVR-107.

Arggh, please tell me it won't be out until June. No, No, No. I gave up on Plextor and look what happened to me!

On a side note, it looks exactly like the PX-708A.

PostPosted: Tue Mar 09, 2004 11:14 pm
by Ian
According to that info it will be available in Japan about mid-June. And yes, there will be an SATA version:

http://www.plextor.co.jp/news/nr/px712sa.pdf

PostPosted: Tue Mar 09, 2004 11:15 pm
by Ian
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 09, 2004 11:19 pm
by BurninMan921
Sweet...I'll take a SATA version.

But one thing: you've got it listed as 16x on the front page...

PostPosted: Tue Mar 09, 2004 11:21 pm
by BurninMan921
aviationwiz wrote:Oh my god, No, No, No. I just bought the damn DVR-107.


So...wanna dump that 107? :)

PostPosted: Tue Mar 09, 2004 11:23 pm
by BMR
Finally !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have been waiting for quite some time for this one to come out and was thinking about jumping ship like aviationwiz and buying the DVR107 but may now wait for this one.

BMR

PostPosted: Tue Mar 09, 2004 11:25 pm
by Ian
BurninMan921 wrote:But one thing: you've got it listed as 16x on the front page...


Just wishful thinking...

PostPosted: Tue Mar 09, 2004 11:34 pm
by vsekh
I've been waiting and wondering what Plextor will release next. This will most likely be the next dvd-burner that I'll get. The current Plextor PX708a has worked great for me. I'll get the SATA version if it will work with the current motherboards that have onboard SATA controllers.

PostPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2004 12:09 am
by tazdevl
No dual layer?

PostPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2004 12:09 am
by BurninMan921
Ian wrote:
BurninMan921 wrote:But one thing: you've got it listed as 16x on the front page...


Just wishful thinking...


Yup...but it still says 16x in the first paragraph above the specs :)

PostPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2004 12:17 am
by Ian
Oops.. fixed.

PostPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2004 12:47 am
by BurninMan921
Just call me "Mr. Proof reader" today :)

PostPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2004 1:32 am
by CowboySlim
I'll get the SATA version if it will work with the current motherboards.


My motherboard doesn't have SATA so I'll just get a new motherboard at the same time.

Functionally, SATA is mere hype and marketing spin on an optical drive. It's akin to putting 150mph speed rated tires on a Vanagon, it doesn't do squat - it won't make your Vanagon go 1 mile per week faster.

Slim


Jesse Ventura for President!

PostPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2004 2:27 am
by wicked1
Plextor will not be seeing me buy one. The 708 was the worst dvd burner I have owned yet. I'll stick to my dvr-107 at the "slow" 8X on cheap discs that actually work.When they get their dvd-r capabilities going better I might consider one but thats a big might.I'll give the 708 a good note on dvd+rs at least it did something good.

px 712

PostPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2004 4:27 am
by konsolen
p-cav for the 8x and 12 x speed??

PostPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2004 4:44 am
by Halc
CowboySlim wrote:Functionally, SATA is mere hype and marketing spin on an optical drive.


That's only half of the picture. You are clearly thinking of the transfer speeds only.

Serial ATA's point-to-point nature and no need for half-assed bus arbitration protocols (slave/master on PATA) should ensure that the compatibility problems of having two opticals on the same channel are in the past.

If you haven't run into optical ATAPI drive compatibility problems when run on the same PATA channel, be thankful. I know how painful they can be, having tried several dozens of various drives from various manufacturers sharing the same channel.

Furthermore, if NCQ from SATA II is to be implemented on ATAPI devices, we could see additional higher burst transfers, lower seek times and lower cpu utilisation figures.

As a last point, if you consider that you can PCI bus arbitrate four devices using one IRQ (one SATA controller), you are actually saving resources with SATA. The same on PATA would require 2 IRQs and even then the devices would share the ATA channel.

Putting all this together, SATA is already as it is useful for ATAPI devices and can only become more so in the future.

regards,
halc

PostPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2004 6:02 am
by minchin
You suppose this is just an over-clocked 708A?
I am probably not going to chase down the speed daemon thingy.... after seeing that I have to worry so much about the 4x media that I have burnt at 8x....

Min

PostPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2004 7:14 am
by dodecahedron
i really like how it raises the bar in other things too:
48x CDR writing
16x SL/12x DL DVD read speed
8MB buffer

PostPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2004 7:26 am
by MediumRare
This drive is looking better all the time.

According to the German site heise, this drive will offer enhanced diagnostic tools as well as 12x burning. The new version of Plextools Professional includes a "Q-check" that allows measurement of PI Sum 8, PIF and POF for DVDs as well as BLER, C1 and C2 for CDs!!

And that's not all: apparently it will display Beta- and Jitter values of burned discs as well as Focus-Error and Tracking-Error for blank media.

The availability date is May, price ca. 208 Euros.

The same news item says that the 8x DVD+R media Plextor is releasing in April will be writable at 12x. Also Plextor Europe is waffling on dual layer support.

G

PostPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2004 9:34 am
by MadBurner
tazdevl wrote:No dual layer?


According to this article (http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/45380), Plextor is still investigating the possibility of Dual Layer recording for the PX-712A.

VEFF: Now you finally know what to do with your 2 PX-708As in April 8)

PostPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2004 9:35 am
by Ciryadin
As of yet no company will be able to deliver dual-layering, q2 is possible but dont count on it I think Q3 and on you will see DVD9-support.

PostPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2004 9:38 am
by Ian
Here's the PX-712A page at Plextor Europe:

http://www.plextor.be/english/products/px712a.html

I think I'm going to have to order one of these, purely for its ability to test PI/PO.

PostPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2004 9:48 am
by Ian
American release dates and prices:

PX-712A - late April - $209
PX-712SA - May - $229