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Ciryadin wrote:

OC-Freak wrote:Let's see if the NU could match it ( BenQ DW1600A )

Actually u can compare very easily since BenQ buys there drives from QSI Taiwan, which is NU mothercompany

I'm pretty sure that's not true either. All the Benq DVDR/RW drives I have seen here in India are made in Malaysia too.

How about you explaining what you mean with "buy" instead? Because this sounds like BS to me too...

jsl wrote:Uhm, just because the MP5308 was a rebadged NEC doesn't mean that all Ricoh's coming drives will be NEC OEM's. Ricoh models:

MP5120/25 -> Ricoh
MP5163 -> NEC
MP5240 -> Ricoh
MP5308 -> NEC
MP5316(?) -> Ricoh (according to what I've heard including own chipset).

It looks like I was wrong there , the 5316 looks to be a NEC rebadge after all. Kind of strange though to make a chipset and probably helping AOpen with the R&D of the DUW1608 (in the AOpen firmware you'll find the string "AOPEN DUW1608/ARR A101 20040809 Copyright(C)Ricoh Co.,Ltd.") and then shipping a NEC rebadge under its own brand

Ciryadin: You are wrong.

I asked BenQ about this, and they told all manufacturing is done by them.

1: Benq 16x (DW1600/1620) has been at production level since May - why not the NU 16x too if BenQ get the drives from NU?
2: BenQ drives is based on a philips chipset (which has no flaws that can't be adjusted by firmware upgrades). NU 16x uses a ricoh chipset........

Ciryadin wrote:You could try ask BenQ then if you don't believe it.

I would say it looks to be the other way around, you will rebadge BenQ drives: http://www.nu-global.com/1_english/2_ne ... =1&pID=119

So what happened to the DDW-162? Or was it just a AOpen(-Ricoh) rebadge but you now decided to use BenQ instead, seeing QSI is focusing on slim type drives now: http://www.cdfreaks.com/news/9927

And what was it that was so bad about Philips chipset again?

jsl wrote:I would say it looks to be the other way around, you will rebadge BenQ drives: http://www.nu-global.com/1_english/2_ne ... =1&pID=119

so you are saying the new nu drives are benq oem drives?
how did you come to this conclusion?

the new nu tech 16x burner burns DL only with 2,4?

thats to slow!!

nec and pio108 can handle them with 4x!

uknown1234 wrote:how did you come to this conclusion?

Look at the front of the drive. Total BenQ.

Ian wrote:

uknown1234 wrote:how did you come to this conclusion?

Look at the front of the drive. Total BenQ.

yea I know what you mean but this has not been confirmed yet has it?

Makes sense to me that they probably gave up, and decided to rebadge Benq drives. The last firmware update for the DDW-082 was almost 3 months ago. From my experience the 082 was marginal at 8x on +R and they struggled mightily with -R, never really figuring it out.