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Where is DVD-R Dual Layer

PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2004 10:35 am
by jberry
Been out of the loop for a while..did some searches but nothing difinitive...Where is DVD-R dual layer? any reason why it is so slow...if anyone has any background stuff (or links) on this I would love it.

Also...anyone tested to see if DVD+R dual layers works in CONSISTENLY in set-top boxes?

Re: Where is DVD-R Dual Layer

PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2004 10:39 am
by Ian
jberry wrote:Been out of the loop for a while..did some searches but nothing difinitive...Where is DVD-R dual layer? any reason why it is so slow...if anyone has any background stuff (or links) on this I would love it.


There isn't a lot of info out there. Pioneer hasn't said when or if it will be released. Current rumor is that it will be on the DVR-A09 and will be released 1Q 2005. That's a RUMOR.

Also...anyone tested to see if DVD+R dual layers works in CONSISTENLY in set-top boxes?


There have been many tests and it depends upon a) the player and b) whether or not you set the book type to DVD-ROM. I'm sure it might also depend upon the media used, but there's only a few types out right now.

PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2004 11:12 am
by uknown1234
if dvd-r dl media does come out how will it be with compatibility since you cannot set the booktype to dvd-rom?
setting the booktype in dvd+r dl is definetely need. unless you are willing to chance that expensive dvd and see whether it plays in your dvd player as dvd+r dl or not.

PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2004 11:18 am
by ItalianJob
uknown1234 wrote:if dvd-r dl media does come out how will it be with compatibility since you cannot set the booktype to dvd-rom?
setting the booktype in dvd+r dl is definetely need. unless you are willing to chance that expensive dvd and see whether it plays in your dvd player as dvd+r dl or not.


+1, I set the booktype of my first Verbatim DVD+R DL to DVD-ROM, and it plays fine on 6 different old and new players. Bitsetting IS needed.

For DVD-R DL #-o if it becomes available in the future :roll: , they have to find something as good...

PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2004 12:04 pm
by alien7
Pioneer can never catch up with Philips engineers, by the time Pioneer releases dvd dl-r, Philips will probably have dvd dl+r 6x or 8x out... :wink:

PostPosted: Fri Aug 20, 2004 2:40 pm
by digitaldoc
I've heard the 1st quarter of '05 for the release of DVD-R DL media, but don't hold your breath.

PostPosted: Mon Aug 23, 2004 11:27 am
by jberry
thanks for the posts.....been hoping that someone would get dual layer out...I have been using my LG4040b for sometime now and was looking to upgrade....oh well....guess I will wait.

Funny how there are tons of dual layer drives and no media....anyone tried +R dual layer anywhere?

PostPosted: Mon Aug 23, 2004 1:32 pm
by MadBurner
Also consider how expensive 2X and/or 4X DVD-R DL media will be compared to 2.4X and/or 4X DVD+R DL media by the time it is released!

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 11:55 am
by jberry
true...but it will have to be competitive since +r prcies will have fallen by then....if -r is not priced right no one will buy and +r more economical.

PostPosted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 3:46 pm
by digitaldoc
While that would make sense, DVD+R DL when it debuted was ridiculously overpriced, yet some folks "had to have it," and paid the price of admission.

PostPosted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 6:47 pm
by uknown1234
digitaldoc wrote:While that would make sense, DVD+R DL when it debuted was ridiculously overpriced, yet some folks "had to have it," and paid the price of admission.

true but that is because there was no dl media before + or - so it was a big novelty. this time around could be different since most people will have to wonder about the compatibility of dvd-r dl because it doesn not bit set like +.