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Toshiba SD-R5372 - First drive with 5x DVD+R DL Writing Spee

PostPosted: Tue Sep 21, 2004 12:19 pm
by Ian
Interesting drive. I wonder how Toshiba is going to pull this off.

Press release

Writing Speeds:
DVD+R: 16x
DVD+RW: 4x
DVD+R DL: 5x
DVD-R: 12x
DVD-RW: 4x
CD-R: 48x
CD-RW: 24x

Read Speeds:
DVD-ROM: 16x Max
DVD±R: 12x Max
DVD±RW: 6x Max
DVD+R DL: 8x Max
DVD-RAM: 2x
CD-ROM: 40x Max
CD-RW: 24x Max

Buffer Size: 2MB

Access Times:
DVD-ROM: 120ms
DVD-RAM: 200ms
CD-ROM: 100ms

More specs

PostPosted: Tue Sep 21, 2004 12:22 pm
by ramlin
.....just when you thought it was safe to buy a new drive...in comes this...yes, I wonder how they're gonna pull this one off. It also reads DVD Ram - but does it make toast? :wink:

PostPosted: Tue Sep 21, 2004 12:24 pm
by Ian
I'm looking over the user guide for the drive and it doesn't say what writing method it uses for DVD+R DL. It gives everything else, but not DL... I have a feeling it uses CAV or something.

PostPosted: Tue Sep 21, 2004 12:36 pm
by ramlin
I also read on another site today that Ricoh is launching its own 16x and 4xDL drive (it's called the Ricoh MP5316DA ). Ian, what are the Ricoh and Toshiba drives normally like (I have a Toshiba DVD Rom drive - and I'm very happy with it). Are they based on the NEC or Philips chipset or their own chip set?

PostPosted: Tue Sep 21, 2004 12:55 pm
by Noua
I thought you could only get 4x or 6x or 8x or 12x on dvd burns... #-o

PostPosted: Tue Sep 21, 2004 1:01 pm
by hoxlund
Noua wrote:I thought you could only get 4x or 6x or 8x or 12x on dvd burns... #-o


this will be intresting to see how they do this 5x burning

PostPosted: Tue Sep 21, 2004 1:03 pm
by Halc
Ricoh has used their own chipsets earlier, but their optical quality has been sorely lacking (IMHO). Their drives are extremely prone to breakdown and developing 'picky' symptoms (picky about writing and picky about reading). IMHO of course.

Samsung and Toshiba have pooled their optical disk device businesses earlier and I belive they use their own chipsets (manufactured by Toshiba).

PostPosted: Tue Sep 21, 2004 1:03 pm
by Ian
ramlin wrote:Ian, what are the Ricoh and Toshiba drives normally like (I have a Toshiba DVD Rom drive - and I'm very happy with it). Are they based on the NEC or Philips chipset or their own chip set?


For awhile there, Ricoh was using their own drive designs, but with their 8x they started rebadging NEC's. Toshiba's 8x drive used Toshiba's own chipset. Not an impressive drive IMO. More recently though, they've partnered with Samsung. I have no idea what their new drives are like. Your guess is as good as mine.

PostPosted: Tue Sep 21, 2004 2:59 pm
by shimman
samsung odd got worse because of deal with toshiba imho; toshiba is not pulling the string with competent chipsets & samsung is stuck with so so chipset. afaik, samsung is responsible for making all the design of drive except chipsets & optical pickups

if the new toshiba can do 5x + dl, then samsung's 16x should be able to do that.....maybe not. ;)

PostPosted: Tue Sep 21, 2004 5:16 pm
by VEFF
Nice!
5X will save a fair amount of time, especially if burning close to a
full 8.5 GB. It could save 5 - 6 minutes for 8.5 GB, if my calculations are right?

Due out in October :)
Argh I was just getting excited about having a new burner during my vacation (next week). :(

PostPosted: Tue Sep 21, 2004 5:21 pm
by ItalianJob
Are there firmware updates for Toshiba burners ? Because for Toshiba DVD-ROM firmwares it's total desert...

PostPosted: Tue Sep 21, 2004 6:31 pm
by dhc014
Official Toshiba firmware updates are very rare. Hopefully that will change.

PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2004 8:12 am
by Ian
I forgot to mention this the other day.

1. The drive uses P-CAV. It starts writing at 4x.

2. It will write to Verbatim DL media at 5x

PostPosted: Tue Oct 05, 2004 4:15 pm
by VEFF
Anyone have an idea on an approximate release date?

PostPosted: Wed Oct 06, 2004 10:29 am
by alexnoe
I've not seen a Toshiba dvd writer with acceptable write quality so far...

PostPosted: Wed Oct 06, 2004 11:05 am
by jase
I haven't either, although the standalone CE DVD recorders they produce have Toshiba-built DVD writers in them (inc DVD-RAM) which seem to be of excellent quality -- they'll write to anything, and usually with very respectable burn quality as well. Go figure.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 06, 2004 12:11 pm
by Scour
alexnoe wrote:I've not seen a Toshiba dvd writer with acceptable write quality so far...


I agree with you.

I´d like the real Toshiba-DVD-Roms (not the Samsung-like), but the writers from both, Toshiba and Samsung were no high-quality-drives

PostPosted: Wed Oct 06, 2004 4:20 pm
by aviationwiz
5x... interesting. Now how come I never saw this thread until now? :lol:

PostPosted: Wed Oct 06, 2004 4:22 pm
by Ian
aviationwiz wrote:Now how come I never saw this thread until now? :lol:


Cocaine is one hell of a drug?

PostPosted: Wed Oct 06, 2004 4:33 pm
by dodecahedron
ROTFLMAO :lol: :lol: :lol:

PostPosted: Wed Oct 06, 2004 9:06 pm
by MadBurner
5x DL is something that I would have expected Plextor to release with the 716 8)

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 06, 2004 10:26 pm
by Ian
Anyone else notice that Verbatim's advertised their media as 5x capable in their latest press release?

PostPosted: Wed Oct 06, 2004 10:32 pm
by VEFF
I would hold out for this over the Plextor 716A, but ONLY if the writing
quality (EDIT>>) OF THE TOSHIBA is good, which it seems it might not be. :(

Thanks for the feeback about Toshiba burners guys!

PostPosted: Wed Oct 06, 2004 10:48 pm
by aviationwiz
In refrence to PX-716A:
VEFF wrote:which it seems it might not be.


I'm waiting for it to come out first myself to decide on whether it has good or bad write quality. Speaking of which, according to that press release, it should be due out a week from Friday, but I don't put very much faith behind Plextor's release dates, remember the PX-712SA fiasco?

PostPosted: Thu Oct 07, 2004 2:19 am
by MadBurner
aviationwiz wrote:Speaking of which, according to that press release, it should be due out a week from Friday, but I don't put very much faith behind Plextor's release dates, remember the PX-712SA fiasco?


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Pre-ordering will start mid-October


According to Plextor's website, pre-ordering won't even begin until mid-October meaning that the drive probably won't be released until sometime in November or December for that matter :roll:

More delays...

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