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PostPosted: Tue Sep 28, 2004 5:36 am
by alexnoe
Well, Nero is just as junky as easy cd creator... the LG 4120B I bought came in a package as I like it: plastic bag with drive+manual inside. No Nero inside which I wouldn't want to pay one single cent for.

Nero has always been inferior to cdrecord and dvddecrypter and still is.... for example, you have to update it with a 28 MB download each time a new drive shall be supported. cdrecord / dvddecrypter always worked with newer drives, without the necessity to download a 28 MB update each month, just swapping old bugs for new ones. And Nero still can't handle long file names (more than 107 characters) and long volume ids (more than 16 characters)

The one an only thing Nero is good for is spying on its aspi traffic to find out bitsetting commands...

PostPosted: Tue Sep 28, 2004 7:00 am
by ItalianJob
DVD_ADDICT wrote:Why is it that Plextor America doesn't offer PLEX TOOLS with the 716A drive? They have junky EASY CD/DVD CREATOR instead of NERO BURN. I see Plextor Europe includes PLEX TOOLS with their 716A.

Geez I forgot how to install the PLEX TOOLS! #-o


1- Create a registry entry
From this source...

Add this key :
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Juxtaposition] Parameter (REG_SZ) ="11111111"

2- Download Plextools Pro 2.16 upgrade and install it !
http://www.plextor.be/technicalservices/downloads/utilities.asp?choice=Utilities

PostPosted: Tue Sep 28, 2004 12:07 pm
by dodecahedron
MadBurner wrote:
jvidia wrote:And what about a SATA version ?!?! 716SA ?!? :cry:


Yes, Plextor has announced a SATA version as well.

question though, will it be a native SATA drive, or just the same as the ATAPI drive with a bridge attached ?

PostPosted: Tue Sep 28, 2004 12:08 pm
by dodecahedron
alexnoe wrote:Well, Nero is just as junky as easy cd creator... Nero has always been inferior to cdrecord and dvddecrypter and still is....
etc.

sorry if this is a stupid question, is there a Windows version of cdrecord ?

PostPosted: Tue Sep 28, 2004 12:12 pm
by alexnoe
Of course: http://www.sbox.tugraz.at/home/t/tplank/ <= contains cdrecord, mkisofs and some other stuff

PostPosted: Tue Sep 28, 2004 12:12 pm
by dodecahedron
alexnoe wrote:Of course: http://www.sbox.tugraz.at/home/t/tplank/ <= contains cdrecord, mkisofs and some other stuff

thank you :D :P
if you don't mind my asking, which frontend do you use ?

PostPosted: Tue Sep 28, 2004 12:31 pm
by alexnoe
i'm using the CLI

PostPosted: Tue Sep 28, 2004 1:30 pm
by dodecahedron
alexnoe wrote:i'm using the CLI

???
is that one of the frontends listed on that page you linked?

PostPosted: Tue Sep 28, 2004 1:42 pm
by alexnoe
LOL


cli = command line interface.

PostPosted: Tue Sep 28, 2004 3:22 pm
by dolphinius_rex
alexnoe wrote:LOL


cli = command line interface.


Man... does nobody remember DOS anymore?

PostPosted: Tue Sep 28, 2004 5:54 pm
by ItalianJob
DVD+RW 8X, DVD-R DL in october with a new firmware, and maybe "lightscribe" with a magic christmas firmware :lol:

Not joking, I'm waiting for the first HP lightscribe burner ! Only one color at the lightscribe start, and then...

Look at the article posted by IAN on cdrlabs,
and the source :

http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/040928/285288_1.html =P~

PostPosted: Tue Sep 28, 2004 6:16 pm
by Ian
LightScribe won't be out until 2005. I'm not sure if Plextor has even signed on with HP for it yet.

PostPosted: Tue Sep 28, 2004 7:09 pm
by dolphinius_rex
Ian wrote:LightScribe won't be out until 2005. I'm not sure if Plextor has even signed on with HP for it yet.


Or if they will.... Since we know HP likes NEC and Ricoh for their burners, it's likely one of them will be signed on for supporting it.

PostPosted: Tue Sep 28, 2004 8:01 pm
by KenW
I have looked at plex drives before I almost bought 708a, but the reviews stopped me, and 712a was only +R 12x again I was stopped but this time if I can find the money I think I will get this 716a drive, man is the spec on this drive sweet.

PostPosted: Tue Sep 28, 2004 8:02 pm
by dodecahedron
alexnoe wrote:LOL


cli = command line interface.

LOL indeed! :o :lol: :D

DOS ? what is DOS ? who uses DOS ?
LINUX !!!!

PostPosted: Tue Sep 28, 2004 10:18 pm
by Shredder
ItalianJob wrote:I'm waiting for the first HP lightscribe burner ! Only one color at the lightscribe start, and then...

Ian wrote:LightScribe won't be out until 2005. I'm not sure if Plextor has even signed on with HP for it yet.


Remember Yamaha CRW-F1 DiscT@2? Déjà Vu!

PostPosted: Tue Sep 28, 2004 11:07 pm
by Ian
Yeah, but this prints on top so you won't need labels.

PostPosted: Tue Sep 28, 2004 11:20 pm
by dodecahedron
ItalianJob wrote:and maybe "lightscribe" with a magic christmas firmware :lol:

where does it say that the Plex 716 might have a lightscribe firmware update ???

PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2004 12:11 am
by Ian
dodecahedron wrote:
ItalianJob wrote:and maybe "lightscribe" with a magic christmas firmware :lol:

where does it say that the Plex 716 might have a lightscribe firmware update ???


Probably the same place where it says it makes cappuccino and takes out the garbage.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2004 4:50 am
by ItalianJob
dodecahedron wrote:
ItalianJob wrote:and maybe "lightscribe" with a magic christmas firmware :lol:

where does it say that the Plex 716 might have a lightscribe firmware update ???


Nowhere, it was just a joke.

>>Remember Yamaha CRW-F1 DiscT@2? Déjà Vu!

Yamaha is RIP my friends, but it was a good idea. Again lightscribe will be "colored" for the next evolutions and not only monochrome. Without a specific printer, I think it's pretty cool...

PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2004 5:41 am
by Shredder
Ian wrote:Yeah, but this prints on top so you won't need labels.


ItalianJob wrote:Yamaha is RIP my friends, but it was a good idea. Again lightscribe will be "colored" for the next evolutions and not only monochrome. Without a specific printer, I think it's pretty cool...


My point exactly. Yamaha CRW-F1 DiscT@2 was good idea, but you had to trade burning surface space to write and/or draw something on it, and you needed dark blue dye CD-R/RW to be clearly visible. So I'm thinking maybe this lightscribe will probably need lightscribe compatible discs and possibility that it may have some kind of side effects on durability and longevity (data archival duration) of the discs.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2004 7:15 am
by ItalianJob
You need special lightscribe DVD discs, and Verbatim will provide them first.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2004 8:21 am
by Ian
Anyone else envisioning discs that are gonna cost $5 a pop? Verbatim isn't exactly cheap as it is.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2004 9:02 am
by ItalianJob
As always, inovation has a cost (at the begining almost).
2.4X DL discs and good 16X SL discs are still quite expensive. And so DVD burners were a few months ago...

PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2004 10:45 am
by MadBurner
Plextor Europe officially announces the 716A


Perhaps it's time to change the topic of this thread :P

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