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I like speed but NOT at the expense of write quality!

Then again, seeing as I purchased two 716s, I may be lying

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Well I was about to retire my 106 for the 109 today but I see no point to spend the money yet as I have the 107 and 108 already. Newegg has the same specs for the 109 listed as the 108. I am still happy burning my Longtens at 4X in the 106 and my TY's(yes I switched for personal use finally) in the 107 and 108. I just need to get gentoo to see my Pioneers on the SATA bus they are on at the moment. Mandrake 10.1 doesnt see them either Even after a recompile with SATA support but anyway firewire still works fine so I will put them back as I am NOT using windows ever again. I guess I will wait for the Pioneer 110?

Looks like Newegg updated the specs for this drive!

Specifications:
Write Speed: 6X DVD+R DL, 6X DVD-R DL, 16X DVD+R, 8X DVD+RW, 16X DVD-R, 6X DVD-RW, 40X CD-R, 24X CD-RW
Read Speed: 40X CD-ROM, 16X DVD-ROM
Interface: ATAPI / E-IDE
Buffer: 2MB

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dolphinius_rex wrote:

hoxlund wrote:if mwave has this in stock on payday tomorrow, ill be buying one

to each his own

besides its not like aviationwiz doesn't have a pioneer, remember he owns a Mac G5 which has a 107 in it

hoxlund wrote:
to each his own

besides its not like aviationwiz doesn't have a pioneer, remember he owns a Mac G5 which has a 107 in it

That's true.... Aviationwiz has... how shall we say "fallen away" from the "faith"

yeah, if he's not careful he'll get his title changed to 'Pioneer fan(atic)'

How long before the 3530?

Looks like my contact at Pioneer USA was right.
Only 12x on MCC004 is pretty pathetic...

I stopped having faith in Pioneer with the DVR-107 removed support for Optodisc 4x DVD-Rs

I have NOT been impressed with the DVR-108 really, and I'm not liking what I see about the DVR-109.... but that doesn't mean I won't buy one.

dolphinius_rex wrote:I have NOT been impressed with the DVR-108 really, and I'm not liking what I see about the DVR-109.... but that doesn't mean I won't buy one.

I wasn't that impressed with the 108 either but I too may purchase the 109!

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Why are people here and at cdfreaks, so hard on the Dvr-109? It just came out. It has good writing quality even though it's not the fastest burner. I'm sure it will get better with firmware updates. I think it will be an awesome drive. Isn't it about the write quality and not speed?

I still think people are forgetting about the write quality and look at the speed. It's not how fast something gets done, but how well it gets done.

Just my 2 cents

Someone posted a new scan here and it was a really awesome scan. The write quality is good.
http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=112970&page=4

The Pioneer Dvr-109 has now showed up on the Pioneer Europe page.
http://www.pioneer-eur.com/eur/product_ ... y_id=43-92

It shows CAV for 16x, PCAV for 12x, and PCAV for 8x for Dvd -R and +R.

hydrogen wrote:Why are people here and at cdfreaks, so hard on the Dvr-109? It just came out. It has good writing quality even though it's not the fastest burner. I'm sure it will get better with firmware updates. I think it will be an awesome drive. Isn't it about the write quality and not speed?

I still think people are forgetting about the write quality and look at the speed. It's not how fast something gets done, but how well it gets done.

I agree about the write quality being important. I think expectations are higher for this drive than most others so it is easier to disappoint people. While it really doesn't do much for me, I've accepted that there are many others out there who rank overspeeding 8X media to 16X (not just 12X) and finishing a burn 45 secs quicker (CAV), ect. high on their list. To me those are nice additions once you achieve excellent burn quality at a media's rated speed.

Jim,

Thank you for replying. I was hoping to hear from someone on this.

I'm glad that you agree that the write quality is important. I think you may be right about expectations being high, and some people might get disappointed easily. I try to make sure I never set high expectations for any drive. That way, I will never be disappointed. My expectations are always are for the drive to have great write quality at the maximum media's rated speed. If the disc is an 8x disc, I expect it to burn well at 8x. Anything higher is a bonus.

I totally agree with your last sentence.

Personally I don't see the big deal about the 109. I've compared DVD-R scans between the 109 and the BenQ 1620 and if anything the BenQ burns -R as good as or better than the Pioneer. I won't bother to mention +R.

seaegg wrote:Personally I don't see the big deal about the 109.

DVD-R DL, 6x DVD+R DL

dodecahedron wrote:

seaegg wrote:Personally I don't see the big deal about the 109.

DVD-R DL, 6x DVD+R DL

and cheaper then the PX-716a

dolphinius_rex wrote:

dodecahedron wrote:

seaegg wrote:Personally I don't see the big deal about the 109.

DVD-R DL, 6x DVD+R DL

and cheaper then the PX-716a

I need a review from Ian for the 109

Scour wrote:

dolphinius_rex wrote:

dodecahedron wrote:

seaegg wrote:Personally I don't see the big deal about the 109.

DVD-R DL, 6x DVD+R DL

and cheaper then the PX-716a :wink:

I need a review from Ian for the 109 :)

At the rate of the new firmware updates being released you'd be hard pressed to complete the review before the firmware was updated.

Scour wrote:I need a review from Ian for the 109

I'd love to, but I'd need Pioneer to send me one... which if history repeats itself, won't be until March.

Ian wrote:

Scour wrote:I need a review from Ian for the 109

I'd love to, but I'd need Pioneer to send me one... which if history repeats itself, won't be until March.

If I don't buy it first

DVD-R DL I guess would more interest my son for certain reasons but not me although he'll probably bug me about it for these certain reasons. 6x DVD+R DL is no big deal to me. 4x suits me fine. My quest is for near perfect burns and great compatibility with standalones.