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Question about 15 pack Maxell Dvd-Rw at Office Depot.

PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2005 11:04 am
by hydrogen
Are the Maxell 15 packs of Dvd-Rw at Office Depot any good? Does anyone know who makes them, and what speed they are?

I have never bought a pack of Dvd-Rw's in my life. I have no idea who makes good ones. I only know about Dvd-R and Dvd+R media

Could you guys tell me who makes the best Dvd-Rw's? Please list brand, media id, and speed if possible.

I'm going to use them in a Pioneer home dvd recorder.

PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2005 12:42 pm
by spryfly
if they say MIJ then you should be good to go......

PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2005 3:59 pm
by dolphinius_rex
spryfly wrote:if they say MIJ then you should be good to go......


not likely...

I can't remember who makes them these days, but it's VERY rarely Maxell.

PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2005 4:03 pm
by alexnoe
The last Maxell DVD-RWs i've seen were made by mitsubishi

PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2005 7:49 pm
by DVD_ADDICT
I just bought 2 spindles of the Maxell DVD-RW 15 packs from Office Depot the media code is MCC 01RW11n9. I bought it to use with a Pioneer 220 Dvd Recorder that I'll be purchasing. Is this media any good?

PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2005 9:38 pm
by hydrogen
Thank you guys. If it's Mcc, then that's cool. Hopefully it will be good.

PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2005 5:23 am
by RJW
Good: MCC(and all there partners usseing there mid as long as it's big branded stuff.), JVC/VICTOR, TDK
Okay: RICOHJPN (RITEK), PHILIPS (Mostly CMC but also other third parties.)

All the rest is not that great(That last part was missing . Geez I really should check what I post these day.) except for some japanese brands (like Pioneer !) which do not longer make any media or don't have any oem's running for them longer.

Optodisc and CMC (OWN code version) and Ritek seem to inconsistant to me.

PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2005 6:18 am
by hydrogen
Thank you Rjw.

Is dvd-rw dieing or something? I never really see much of it. I think the Maxell dvd-rw discs at Office Depot is 2x. Does anyone make 4x dvd-rw? Also, why doesn't Taiyo Yuden or Maxell make any dvd-rw?

I have seen more dvd+rw than dvd-rw. I just thought it was strange.

PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2005 6:20 am
by alexnoe
Every better shop has Verbatim 4x -RW media here ( www.alternate.de , www.pcanymore.de , www.planet-elektronik.de , www.amazon.de ...)

PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2005 10:16 am
by Wesociety
Don't forget RITEKW04 (4x DVD-RW).
Those discs perform quite well on a range of drives for me. :P

Optodisc also has some DVD-RW but they are not so great IMO.

PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2005 2:54 pm
by MediumRare
hydrogen wrote:I have seen more dvd+rw than dvd-rw. I just thought it was strange.

I think part of this may be historical- if you recall, the +format was initially only +RW with +R being added later (there was quite a ruckus because some burners weren't capable of writing one-time discs, even after firmware updates). This is probably why all +media have an RW on the packaging. The dash-rewritables came later, so the +rewritables just have a head start.

G

PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2005 3:01 pm
by alexnoe
There were DVD-RW discs long before the DVD+ alliance even dreamt about selling drives. I've bought my first dvd-rw disc in Q1/02 :)

PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2005 4:11 pm
by dolphinius_rex
Wesociety wrote:Don't forget RITEKW04 (4x DVD-RW).
Those discs perform quite well on a range of drives for me. :P

Optodisc also has some DVD-RW but they are not so great IMO.


That's because you don't have any good ones :o

Don't forget Optodisc's 4x DVD-RWs are actually Pioneer Certified... and Ritek's are barely *Ritek* certified :lol: Actually, I have not been impressed with Ritek's 4x DVD-RWs... there support in the beginning was about as bad as their dual layer! Still, I've seen worse (Melody brand CMC!!)

PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2005 4:15 pm
by alexnoe
The one and only Optodisc 1x -RW i had wasn't even recognised as being round by some reading devices, especially picky ones. The same devices had no issue with Verbatim 1x -RWs... we all know that Pioneer sold the 2x speed -R certification on 1x discs (their FAQ said it, though not the european one), and no one knows what other certifications they give out for money

Re: Question about 15 pack Maxell Dvd-Rw at Office Depot.

PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2005 8:12 pm
by N8YWF
hydrogen wrote:Are the Maxell 15 packs of Dvd-Rw at Office Depot any good? Does anyone know who makes them, and what speed they are?


I bought some today to use in my Sanyo DRW-1000. I haven't tried them yet but I did take a look at one in DVDINFOPRO.

Maxell 2X DVD-RW From Office Depot Jan 31, 2005 Made In Taiwan

Media Information
Region information N/A not a DVD-VIDEO
Media code/Manufacturer ID MCC 01RW11n9
Format Capacity Blank Disc
Free Blocks 411107328
Free Capacity 4.38GB(4.71GB)
Book Type DVD-RW
Media Type DVD-RW
Manufacturer Rated Speed 2.0x 2770KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 2.0x 2770KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 1.0x 1385KBps
Write Strategy Speed 2.0x 2770KBps
Data area starting sector 30000h
Linear Density 0.267um/bit
Track Density 0.74um/track
Number of Layers 1

Complete Media Code
00000000 00 42 00 00 01 40 D6 FD 9E D8 21 00 02 0E 08 06 .B...@....!.....
00000010 88 85 0D 00 03 4D 43 43 20 30 31 00 04 52 57 31 .....MCC 01..RW1
00000020 31 6E 39 00 05 06 88 85 0D 00 00 00 06 10 0B 05 1n9.............

PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2005 11:19 pm
by hydrogen
I bought some today and got the same ones that N8YWF got.

They are 2x and are made in Taiwan.

Thank you guys for your help. I'm happy to get the Mcc ones. They should be good.

PostPosted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 1:55 am
by MediumRare
alexnoe wrote:There were DVD-RW discs long before the DVD+ alliance even dreamt about selling drives. I've bought my first dvd-rw disc in Q1/02 :)

Sorry for spreading misinformation. :oops: That was my perception- but you've been around this game a lot longer than I have. :D Fact is though, that +RW came before +R.

G

PostPosted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 5:39 am
by alexnoe
Yup. BTW, this very first DVD-RW was a Pioneer 1x speed DVD-RW, which was 20€ :) A little later, the (higher quality) Verbatim DVD-RWs showed up at ~25€. I was very lucky and got a 5pack on ebay for 70€ :)

Even the shitty LG 12x DVD-ROMs were able to read the Verbatim disc :) :)

DVD+RW was faster though, their first discs were 2.4x speed, and they had that speed shortly before DVD-RW reached 2x. I can tell you, 1x speed writing was boring

PostPosted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 7:25 am
by RJW
alexnoe wrote:There were DVD-RW discs long before the DVD+ alliance even dreamt about selling drives. I've bought my first dvd-rw disc in Q1/02 :)

Dreamt is incorrect. Since I have seen some quite old articles mentioning DVD+RW technology befor DVD-RW was released. Still it wasn't named +RW at that time if I'm right.
Better say something like DVD-RW was allready for some time on the market when the first +RW drives/discs arrived.
:D

About Optodisc/CMC/RITEK and other codes there crap or to unreliable.
Only nice rewritable Optodisc makes are the small ones. Which doesn't seem to have huge variances like the normal media has but then again some stores really like to overprice these.

PostPosted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 1:15 pm
by dolphinius_rex
RJW wrote:About Optodisc/CMC/RITEK and other codes there crap or to unreliable.
Only nice rewritable Optodisc makes are the small ones. Which doesn't seem to have huge variances like the normal media has but then again some stores really like to overprice these.


I don't know... the super expensive MAM-A/MAM-E Optodisc made DVD+RWs are pretty good :wink:

But yeah, Optodisc's Mini DVD-RWs are incredibly good. Also the only DVDR or DVDRW I've ever seen with a zero percent return rate :o