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Verbatim 8x DVD+R DL Media (Finally) Available In Stores

PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 1:22 pm
by Ian
I was at our local Best Buy today and saw that they had gotten in 5 packs of Verbatim's 8x DVD+R DL media. At $24.99 its not exactly cheap.

It's hard to see in the picture but the box says that they discs will work at speeds up to 10x.

PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 5:11 pm
by dolphinius_rex
any idea what the verbatim re-order number is? With a little luck I can get these babies into Canada in a couple weeks :D

PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 7:30 pm
by MediumRare
Maybe the reorder numbers from Verbatim Europe will help you? Check for known media if they're the same.

G

PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 11:13 pm
by dolphinius_rex
Verbatim Europe's re-order numbers are completely different from Verbatim America's.

PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 11:47 pm
by Ian
I'll try to get those numbers for you next time I'm at BB.

PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 2:20 am
by dolphinius_rex
Ian wrote:I'll try to get those numbers for you next time I'm at BB.


Thanks!! :D

PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 2:54 am
by hoxlund
dolphinius_rex wrote:any idea what the verbatim re-order number is? With a little luck I can get these babies into Canada in a couple weeks :D


i told you, u didn't believe me ;)

also do you mean the sku? the item number?

or the model number from the UPC area?

PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 3:42 am
by alexnoe
They have been available here for a long time :)

http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=152852 and

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 8:46 am
by Ian
alexnoe wrote:They have been available here for a long time :)


Yeah, yeah, yeah.. rub it in. You guys in Europe and Asia get all the good stuff first.

PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 9:17 am
by MediumRare
Ian wrote:
alexnoe wrote:They have been available here for a long time :)


Yeah, yeah, yeah.. rub it in. You guys in Europe and Asia get all the good stuff first.

Yeah, and when they have the bugs worked out, you get it for half the price!

G

PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 5:42 pm
by thegdog
MediumRare wrote:Yeah, and when they have the bugs worked out, you get it for half the price!

G

Amen to that! :)

PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 1:43 pm
by dolphinius_rex
Hrm... it looks like Verbatim doesn't want them being sold through proper distribution right now. They're using Bestbuy in the US as a testing ground, as there are major concerns that people with older drives will try using them and experience compatability issues.

PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 1:47 pm
by Ian
They should be like Memorex and put a big ass disclaimer on the packaging. If consumers don't read it that's their problem.

PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 5:34 am
by frank1
dolphinius_rex wrote: . . .
as there are major concerns that people with older drives will try using them and experience compatability issues.
Could you please be more precise about which older drives are concerned ?

Is the compatibilty issue:
- the "MKM-003" MID code is not listed in the firmware of some older drives [like in the 2.1A firmware of the NEC 3500]
- ot they are burned at any speed (2.4x, 4x, 6x or 8x when allowed) with bad quality ?

In one word which burner and firmware burns these Verbatim "MKM-003" perfectly ?
And is a higher speed of 6x or 8x better as some people claim ?

PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 6:22 am
by dodecahedron
i think the media is not backwards compatible - you cant burn it at 2.4x/4x speed (dunno about 6x). so people with older drives (read: that don't support 8x DVD+RW) won't write to the 8x RWs.

PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 10:57 am
by dolphinius_rex
dodecahedron wrote:i think the media is not backwards compatible - you cant burn it at 2.4x/4x speed (dunno about 6x). so people with older drives (read: that don't support 8x DVD+RW) won't write to the 8x RWs.


Swtich 8x DVD+RW for 8x DVD+RDL, and you're 100% correct, as I understand it :wink:

PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 11:14 am
by hoxlund
maybe if my employee price is decent ill pick up a pack

PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 1:01 pm
by dolphinius_rex
hoxlund wrote:maybe if my employee price is decent ill pick up a pack


Can you at least find out the Re-order number for me?? :D

PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 2:21 pm
by hoxlund
the sku number?

or the model number on the back of the box?

PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 2:21 pm
by frank1
I have a pack of 5 DVD+R DL Verbatim 8x code MKM-003
bought in Europe:
The Reorder number is:
43541 for a pack of 5
43540 for single in a jewel case


Then, if you have a look at both official US & European websites of Plextor
you can read among the recommended DVD+R DL 2,4x
the same Reorder number: 43460

PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 5:44 pm
by dolphinius_rex
hoxlund wrote:the sku number?

or the model number on the back of the box?


The one on the back I think. It should be printed on the Verbatim packaging itself.

PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 1:17 am
by eric93se
frank1 wrote:
dolphinius_rex wrote: . . .
as there are major concerns that people with older drives will try using them and experience compatability issues.
Could you please be more precise about which older drives are concerned ?

Is the compatibilty issue:
- the "MKM-003" MID code is not listed in the firmware of some older drives [like in the 2.1A firmware of the NEC 3500]
- ot they are burned at any speed (2.4x, 4x, 6x or 8x when allowed) with bad quality ?

In one word which burner and firmware burns these Verbatim "MKM-003" perfectly ?
And is a higher speed of 6x or 8x better as some people claim ?


The compatibility issue would be becaues the MID code is not listed.

MKM003 is clearly capable of being burned at 2.4x 4x 6x 8x on the Pioneer 110.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 1:22 am
by eric93se
The new benq 1655 has MKM001 restricted to only 2.4x (what the package label states). Benq then has MKM003 capable of writing at 8x. So their basically forcing you to buy the more expensive discs to burn at the higher speeds. Lucky for us the all mighty ala42 made MCSE, so you can swap MKM001 write strategy with MKM003 enabling 8x burning. :)

PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 10:52 am
by dolphinius_rex
Verbatim 2.4x DVD+RDL really is not an 8x capable disc. It's great at 4x, and even pretty good at 6x, but 8x is pushing it too far. This is not just MY opinion, but even Verbatim's opinion! :o Yes, some drives like the Pioneer DVR-110 can burn MKM001 at 8x. And some individual drives of the DVR-110 can even do it well (same goes for the DW1640), but a lot of individual drives can NOT do it well, as shown by Ian and my reviews, as well as various user tests.

Now I don't agree with restricting MKM001 media to 2.4x, I think that's actually quite stupid, because the best quality results often occur at 4x recording, but I don't agree with it being burnable at 8x either.

As for "forcing" people to buy more expensive media. Do you REALLY think any DVD Burner really cares about making sure you buy some completely unrelated company's newest more expensive disc? They don't care at ALL about it. They have no reason to care about it.

PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 2:09 am
by hoxlund
dolphinius_rex wrote:
hoxlund wrote:the sku number?

or the model number on the back of the box?


The one on the back I think. It should be printed on the Verbatim packaging itself.


did you get your message today?

535911 i think was the reorder number, aviationwiz has the voicemail if you want to make sure