Just bought Pioneer 111D DVD writer
Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 10:09 pmWhich firm should i flash it to?? 111 or 111L?
Sorry if it's very stupid qns. I'm very new to DVD writers.
Sorry if it's very stupid qns. I'm very new to DVD writers.
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Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 10:09 pmPosted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 12:09 amUnless you have Labelflash media, there probably isn't any reason to turn it into a 111L.
Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 5:54 amSo flash it to 111 will do?
How do i flash it to 111? Just go to TDB website n d/l the 111 firmware n doubleclick on the .exe will do?
For Nero.. which version do i use??
How do i flash it to 111? Just go to TDB website n d/l the 111 firmware n doubleclick on the .exe will do?
For Nero.. which version do i use??
Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 9:44 am^Yep, download the 111L 8.19 and 8.29 FWs. Flash them sequentially in Safe Mode.
Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 2:08 pmyou might not have to flash in safe mode (i didn't have to ).
going to a 111 will give you DVD-RAM write and autobitsetting for single layer media. going to 111L will give you labelflash.
going to a 111 will give you DVD-RAM write and autobitsetting for single layer media. going to 111L will give you labelflash.
Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 5:06 pmLabel flash will also write to the media side of the disk so you might like to play with that on any disk that has room left or crappy blanks 
Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 5:49 pmBhairav wrote:^Yep, download the 111L 8.19 and 8.29 FWs. Flash them sequentially in Safe Mode.
why do you recommend the 111L firmware, if LabelFlash is not needed / media not available ?
Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 6:26 pmAuto bitsetting, label flash works on media side too so you don't need special blanks. Other then that it's the same as stock Pioneer, but for me the bitsetting part is important.
Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 9:07 pm111 doesn't auto bitset? my bad. i thought the only difference between the 111 and 111l was labelflash.
Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 9:27 pmIt does on plus dual layer only.
Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 12:11 ami know. =]
Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 5:07 amdodecahedron wrote:Bhairav wrote:^Yep, download the 111L 8.19 and 8.29 FWs. Flash them sequentially in Safe Mode.
why do you recommend the 111L firmware, if LabelFlash is not needed / media not available ?
Auto-bitsetting, as mentioned by Dartman above.
Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 3:55 pmso: 111 auto-bigsets DVD+R DL only, 111L auto-bitsets also DVD+R SL?
what about manual bisetting?
DVD+RW bitsetting ? i hope not automatic!
what about manual bisetting?
DVD+RW bitsetting ? i hope not automatic!
Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 5:23 pmDVD+R SL is automatic. haven't tried +RW yet.
Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 5:11 amdodecahedron wrote:so: 111 auto-bigsets DVD+R DL only, 111L auto-bitsets also DVD+R SL?
what about manual bisetting?
DVD+RW bitsetting ? i hope not automatic!
+RW is auto for me.
Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 7:04 pmWhat software is needed to get the Labelflash options? I still am using Nero 6.6.1.14 (or whatever the latest 6.6 version is) at home with my 111L (and I have a Yamaha F1) and from reading, it sounds like Labelflash includes DiscT@2 (is some sort of superset) but I never get any options to do anything with the 111L, just the F1.
Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 9:44 pmYou need nero with a premium serial number then it should work, other software may work also but I know Nero does with the right serial.
Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 9:19 amSo guys, which firmware do i flash to?
I'm quite confuse. I read somewhere that buffalo firmware is good for this drive coz it has auto bitsetting.
I dun need LabelFlash... it's some fancy thing to create image on disc rit?
I'm quite confuse. I read somewhere that buffalo firmware is good for this drive coz it has auto bitsetting.
I dun need LabelFlash... it's some fancy thing to create image on disc rit?
Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 11:27 pmi would go with the 111L firmware for autobitsetting alone (even if you won't use Labelflash).
Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 1:35 pmsorry, but all of the replies have me confused. since many of them don't say if they're talking abougt 111 or 111L.
111 does auto bitsetting on DVD+R DL only, manual bitsetting for DVD+R and DVD+RW.
111L does auto bitsetting for all of them.
did i get that right ?
111 does auto bitsetting on DVD+R DL only, manual bitsetting for DVD+R and DVD+RW.
111L does auto bitsetting for all of them.
did i get that right ?
Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 4:25 pmI thought the 111 only auto bitsets DVD+R DL. I don't think there is any way to bitset manually on the 111 series-- so you need the Buffalo firmware to bitset DVD+R. (so you may as well go to a 111L)
It's really not as complicated as it seems. I bought the DVR-710 (the retail box 111) and read so much as to get REALLY confused, but I think a lot of the issues revolve around the drive being out there for a while so there is quite a bit of firmware out there.
I think you just need to use the TDB 8.19 111L Flasher (on your 111--you need to use this version to "cross-flash" to the new unit, the newer firmwares won't make the jump from 111->111L), and then use the TDB 8.29 111L flasher to bring it up to the latest firmware.
It's really not as complicated as it seems. I bought the DVR-710 (the retail box 111) and read so much as to get REALLY confused, but I think a lot of the issues revolve around the drive being out there for a while so there is quite a bit of firmware out there.
I think you just need to use the TDB 8.19 111L Flasher (on your 111--you need to use this version to "cross-flash" to the new unit, the newer firmwares won't make the jump from 111->111L), and then use the TDB 8.29 111L flasher to bring it up to the latest firmware.
Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 8:44 pmFroze, to summarize in case it helps you:
111 = 111D + DVD-RAM
111L = 111D + DVD-RAM + DVD+R SL auto bitsetting + LabelFlash
So the 111L (Buffalo firmware) has all of the features of the other models plus some exclusive ones, that's why everybody recommends flashing to 111L (maybe the only disadvantage, reported in several posts and that I think I have also experienced, is that with 111L firmware the drive is noisier). Additionally, as you will use TDB firmware to crossflash (flash to a different model) your 111D, you will turn it into a RPC1 drive (the drive's internal region-change counter will be removed; realize that, as stated on TDB website, to be totally region-free you will still have the OS and the software counters to defeat).
About bitsetting, I think it can't be done manually, as Justin42 says, and that none of the models can do it with DVD+RW. Bhairav, are you sure you can bitset DVD+RW?. Do you think you could find out and confirm it?.
111 = 111D + DVD-RAM
111L = 111D + DVD-RAM + DVD+R SL auto bitsetting + LabelFlash
So the 111L (Buffalo firmware) has all of the features of the other models plus some exclusive ones, that's why everybody recommends flashing to 111L (maybe the only disadvantage, reported in several posts and that I think I have also experienced, is that with 111L firmware the drive is noisier). Additionally, as you will use TDB firmware to crossflash (flash to a different model) your 111D, you will turn it into a RPC1 drive (the drive's internal region-change counter will be removed; realize that, as stated on TDB website, to be totally region-free you will still have the OS and the software counters to defeat).
About bitsetting, I think it can't be done manually, as Justin42 says, and that none of the models can do it with DVD+RW. Bhairav, are you sure you can bitset DVD+RW?. Do you think you could find out and confirm it?.
Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 2:15 amKG wrote:Froze, to summarize in case it helps you:
111 = 111D + DVD-RAM
111L = 111D + DVD-RAM + DVD+R SL auto bitsetting + LabelFlash
So the 111L (Buffalo firmware) has all of the features of the other models plus some exclusive ones, that's why everybody recommends flashing to 111L (maybe the only disadvantage, reported in several posts and that I think I have also experienced, is that with 111L firmware the drive is noisier). Additionally, as you will use TDB firmware to crossflash (flash to a different model) your 111D, you will turn it into a RPC1 drive (the drive's internal region-change counter will be removed; realize that, as stated on TDB website, to be totally region-free you will still have the OS and the software counters to defeat).
About bitsetting, I think it can't be done manually, as Justin42 says, and that none of the models can do it with DVD+RW. Bhairav, are you sure you can bitset DVD+RW?. Do you think you could find out and confirm it?.
I can. Will post back in the evening, I have a couple of new Verbatim 4X +RW MIS discs I want to test.
Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 11:53 amNope, my mistake. Booktype is not changed to -ROM.
Re: Just bought Pioneer 111D DVD writer
Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 1:02 amfroze wrote:Which firm should i flash it to?? 111 or 111L?
Sorry if it's very stupid qns. I'm very new to DVD writers.
If you are reside in USA then there is no LabelFlash available in the market yet plus if you are using Nero 6 or 7 both provide no function for labelflash unless you buy NeroReload version of Nero 6 or Nero Premium of Nero 7 which are both European version of Nero.