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Posted: **Mon Aug 06, 2007 3:47 pm**

SithTracy wrote:It's the same hardware... the difference is the "D" series does not write to DVD-RAM.... Neither the 212 or the 212D can bitset to DVD-ROM... for that you need the Buffalo firmware. TDB posted a crossflash for about a day in their beta some time ago but quickly pulled it.

If you need DVD-RAM and bitsetting, I am hearing that the Samsung SH-203B is an outstanding drive... Ordered one and waiting for it to arrive.

Where did you order from? I haven't seen anyone carrying this drive so far.

Posted: **Mon Aug 06, 2007 7:41 pm**

NewEgg.com... they list it as the SATA SH-202B... it is indeed the 203B. Several have ordered it and commented at CDFreaks forums. The SH-202 is the IDE version SH-203B is the SATA version... they just have a typo. I can confirm it for you later this week.

Posted: **Wed Aug 08, 2007 1:40 pm**

That would be most helpful. I'd like to try them; if they don't work, I can at least throw my SATA burning problem back in Intel's face as I return the drives, and if they do work, I'll be a happy man.

Posted: **Wed Aug 08, 2007 2:14 pm**

I'll let you know... I expect the drive to arrive tomorrow...

Also, there is a new firmware available for both the Pioneer DVR-212/212D (1.22) and the Samsung SH-S203B (SB01).

Posted: **Thu Aug 09, 2007 7:37 pm**

Got the drive... have not installed it yet, but according to the label it is a Samsung SH-S203B and not a 202B like NewEgg indicates.

Also, for anyone that cares, DVD-R burning is improved wit Pioneer DVR-212D firmware 1.22. I'm pretty happy with that drive for everyday use.

Posted: **Thu Aug 09, 2007 8:59 pm**

SithTracy wrote:NewEgg.com... they list it as the SATA SH-202B... it is indeed the 203B. Several have ordered it and commented at CDFreaks forums. The SH-202 is the IDE version SH-203B is the SATA version... they just have a typo. I can confirm it for you later this week.

There are also a few other differences. I believe the 202 writes to DVD+R DL media at only 12x and it supports LightScribe.

Posted: **Sun Aug 12, 2007 10:55 am**

Those having AHCI problems may want to try Intel's latest Matrix Storage Manager drivers v7.6.0.1011 dated August 2, 2007.

Posted: **Mon Sep 17, 2007 4:30 pm**

How about the PIONEER DVR-212D SATA BLACK BULK ?

http://www.e-shop.gr/show_per.phtml?id=PER.326703

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827129008&CMP=OTC-RSS

Does it support reading of 96bytes unlike the ASUS DVD-ROM-E616P?

Also, is it true that it does not work with Verbatim 8X DVD+R DL media?

Posted: **Mon Sep 17, 2007 6:23 pm**

AFAIK the 96-Byte-Subs are only needed for a Playstation1-Game with the protection "Libcrypt"

Posted: **Tue Sep 18, 2007 3:58 am**

Yes I want to be able to back up PS-1 games as well...

Posted: **Fri Sep 21, 2007 1:28 pm**

The 212 can read Subs:

I 19:26:03 Starte kopieren von PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-212
I 19:26:03 Lesegeschwindigkeit bei Daten: Maximal
I 19:26:03 Lesegeschwindigkeit bei Audio: Maximal
I 19:26:03 SubChannel Daten von Daten Tracks lesen: Ja
I 19:26:03 SubChannel Daten von Audio Tracks lesen: Ja
I 19:26:03 Defekte Sektoren schnell überspringen: Ja
I 19:26:03 Lesefehler nicht melden: Ja
I 19:26:03 Intelligente Suche nach defekten Sektoren: Ja
I 19:26:03 CD Enthält CD-Text: Nein
I 19:26:03 Lese Track 1... (Blöcke 0-315020)
I 19:28:33 Dauer des Vorgangs: 00:02:29
I 19:28:33 Durchschnittliche Geschwindigkeit: 4961 kBytes/s (28.19)
I 19:28:33 Lesevorgang beendet

This is CD1 of german version of Final Fantasy 9

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