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Plextor PX-810SA - 10x DL Write and SATA

PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 5:00 pm
by Ian
Any guesses as to the actual manufacturer? I thought it might be based on the AD-7170S but it only has 8x DL writing speeds.

http://www.plextor.be/press/releases/px ... e=PX-810SA
http://www.plextor.be/products/px-810sa ... e=PX-810SA

Plextor, the personal storage and high reliability optical drive manufacturer, today announces the latest DVD-RW drive from its new PX-800 series: the Serial-ATA PX-810SA. At 18x, it is still one of the fastest drives in the world [-Plextor was the first manufacturer to launch 18x products with the PX-760 series]. It also incorporates multi-format (DVD+/-R & DVD-RAM) technology to satisfy the demand for high-end SATA drives from enthusiast/professional users...

...The PX-810SA is capable of the following DVD speeds: DVD+/-R - 18x; DVD+/-R DL - 10x; DVD+RW - 8x; DVD-RW - 6x; DVD-RAM – 12x; and CD-R 40x.

Re: Plextor PX-810SA - 10x DL Write and SATA

PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 6:23 pm
by DrageMester
Ian wrote:Any guesses as to the actual manufacturer?


The guess over at CDFreaks is that it's a Pioneer DVR-212 clone:

New recorder: PX-810SA (at CDFreaks)

I haven't looked into it myself yet, so I have no opinion on the guess.

PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 6:34 pm
by Wesociety
Pioneer DVR-212 would be my guess also, just from looking at the specs.

PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 6:37 pm
by Grain
If it's a Pioneer I wonder how it will work with Plextools, they usually aren't the best scanners.

PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 7:57 pm
by Ian
Grain wrote:If it's a Pioneer I wonder how it will work with Plextools, they usually aren't the best scanners.


That's a good point. In the past, Plextor's non-Premium drives didn't work with Plextools (or even include it in the US) but it says that this one comes with PlexTools Professional LE. Maybe the scanning functions aren't there?

I'd have to agree that its a Pioneer DVR-212. The dimensions are very close.

DVR-212: 148mm x 42.3mm x 180mm
PX-810SA: 146 x 42.3 x 180 mm

PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 11:08 pm
by aviationwiz
Bah, I wish we had more real Plextor drives these days.

PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2007 11:43 am
by Wesociety
aviationwiz wrote:Bah, I wish we had more real Plextor drives these days.

Never again, remember? :evil:

PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2007 12:02 pm
by LoneWolf
Let me guess...the new business plan is to sell rebadged, semi-customized drives under the Plextor name at the traditional Plextor high prices?

Sorry, I'm done with that. Even removed the Plextor SCSI's from the wife's machine a month ago (she now has the LiteOn 167T DVD-ROM and NEC 3500A burner that used to be in my machine). Which reminds me, I need to sell that combo on Ebay, since their SCSI burners are still a commodity.

I have nothing against Plextor --but their business model is, IMO, making them irrelevant.

PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2007 12:16 pm
by Wesociety
LoneWolf wrote:Let me guess...the new business plan is to sell rebadged, semi-customized drives under the Plextor name at the traditional Plextor high prices?

Correct, we will no longer see any "real" Plextor designed drives, all they will do is rebadge from now on...

PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2007 12:42 pm
by SithTracy
Wesociety wrote:all they will do is rebadge from now on...
And I won't buy rebadged junk. When the PX-740A came out, I already had a BenQ DW1640... I saw this coming when they did that. It's a shame. Might have to see some of my Plextor SCSI stuff on eBay too... I've got a couple of UltraPleX readers downstairs in the basement anlong with several other old drives... heck a friend of mine is still running my old UltraPleX 32 with an old Ricoh MP-6200S... that's some old stuff.

I hope Plextor has plans for a better business model. I don't think true Plextor users are going to be fooled into paying more for a drive just because Plextor put their name on it. But, flash media is getting cheaper, bigger, and more popular, it could replace ODD.

PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2007 3:11 pm
by Scour
Yeah, original Plextors will be sold out soon. I asked a local dealer for a 760 (not for me, for a freind) and he said he can´t order a 760, they are sold out

PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2007 4:45 pm
by Justin42
SithTracy wrote:
Wesociety wrote:all they will do is rebadge from now on...
And I won't buy rebadged junk. When the PX-740A came out, I already had a BenQ DW1640... I saw this coming when they did that. It's a shame. Might have to see some of my Plextor SCSI stuff on eBay too... I've got a couple of UltraPleX readers downstairs in the basement anlong with several other old drives... heck a friend of mine is still running my old UltraPleX 32 with an old Ricoh MP-6200S... that's some old stuff.


Heh, I was digging through some old equipment and found my old external Ricoh 6200S. Pretty awesome burner for the time, especially once the firmware update that fixed the "full volume clicking noise at the start of each CD" problem came out. ;) Thing is built like a tank and probably still works fine.

PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2007 5:43 pm
by MediumRare
Scour wrote:Yeah, original Plextors will be sold out soon. I asked a local dealer for a 760 (not for me, for a freind) and he said he can´t order a 760, they are sold out

Yeah, they're disappearing. K&M and Atelco still have some- you're looking at 80 Euros for a bulk model. Atelco even has the odd 716 too.

G

PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2007 6:08 pm
by Scour
Maybe I drive to K&M in Frankfurt ;)

PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2007 1:15 pm
by Ian
I guess I shouldn't be surprised that this is a Pioneer. Their new portable drive, the PX-608CU, is based on the Pioneer DVR-K16.

PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2007 12:57 pm
by Bhairav
Good choice though.. Pioneers are still some of the better DVDRWs out there.

PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2007 1:06 pm
by Scour
But I read rumors that Pioneer will be concentrating on BluRay-drives, so the 112/212 maybe their last DVD RW drives

PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2007 1:31 pm
by Wesociety
Scour wrote:But I read rumors that Pioneer will be concentrating on BluRay-drives, so the 112/212 maybe their last DVD RW drives

:o That would REALLY suck!

PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2007 1:50 pm
by Ian
If that's the case, Pioneer needs to get their ass in gear. We've been hearing about their second gen Blu-ray writer for months and what do we get? A combo drive. If they hold back like they did with the BDR-101A, their second gen drive is going to be old tech before it even ships.