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Ideal 3 Sheep CD/DVD Recorder for this job...

PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 7:44 am
by retroborg
Hello,
I’m interested in buying a DVD Recorder for my PC (SATA connection preferably)
My goal is to create security backups & images of my existing original CD/DVD collection of PC CD/DVD, SONY PS1-CD, SONY PS-2-CD/DVD, SEGA Saturn & as well as my Movie DVDs.

Based on this sheep test guide:
http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=101608
I would be interested for a good “3 Sheep” DVD-Recorder that can copy all Safedisk versions etc (capable of correct EFM coding of regular bits & AWS routines), to be able to read/write subchannel data & RAW mode.

I’ve read good reviews on the high speed NEC DVD-Recorders, but I’ve heard that they’re not too great when it comes to copying complicated/protected game CD/DVDs.

Any suggestions will be highly appreciated,
Thanks in advance.

PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 10:23 am
by Ian
I've run across a few will do Safedisk 2.9, but as far as I know there aren't any "3 sheep" DVD writers out there.

Unless you're looking to make backups of older games, this feature probably won't help you much. Most current copy protections, including the latest incarnations of Safedisk, have moved beyond all of this.

PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 1:45 am
by retroborg
Well, I am also interested in making images of my old DOS CD-ROM PC games (which have CD-Audio tracks as well as data) and then re-burn them onto CD accurately.

Will I have a problem doing that with the modern CD/DVD Recorders out now in the market?
How about a Plextor CD/DVD-recorder?


On a side note, I tried making an image of a SONY PS-1 game (Mega Man X3), which features audio tracks as well as data, using the latest CloneCD and my ASUS DVD-ROM-E616P, but this message came up: “ASUS DVD-ROM-E616P doesn’t support reading of 96bytes”

Image

What does this mean; will the final image generated be corrupted?
Which DVD/CD-Recorder should I get to avoid such problems?
Thanks in advance.

PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 10:27 am
by Ian
Most drives should do what you want. If I remember right, the 96 byte thing is only important if you're looking to backup PSX games.

PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 8:40 am
by Halc

PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 10:06 am
by Ian
Halc wrote:Asus DRW-1814 (SATA): "3 sheep burner"
http://www.cdfreaks.com/reviews/ASUS-DR ... ter-Review

LG GSA-H42N: "3 sheep writer"
http://www.cdfreaks.com/reviews/LG-GSA- ... ter-Review


I don't want to question Kip's skills as a reviewer, but the DRW-1814 definitely isn't a 3 sheep burner. Also, have we ever seen an LG drive that is a 3 sheep burner?

PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 4:27 pm
by retroborg
How about the PIONEER DVR-212D SATA BLACK BULK ?

http://www.e-shop.gr/show_per.phtml?id=PER.326703

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... MP=OTC-RSS

Does it support reading of 96bytes unlike the ASUS DVD-ROM-E616P?

Also, is it true that it does not work with Verbatim 8X DVD+R DL media?

PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 12:11 pm
by Halc
Ian wrote:I don't want to question Kip's skills as a reviewer, but the DRW-1814 definitely isn't a 3 sheep burner. Also, have we ever seen an LG drive that is a 3 sheep burner?


I absolutely do not know.

My apologies for passing on information I didn't verify. I'd go with Ian on this one.

PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 2:22 pm
by Scour
Newer Safedisc-versions are to hard for any burner, without emulations u can´t make 1:1-backup

PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 11:50 pm
by kipper
Ian wrote:
Halc wrote:Asus DRW-1814 (SATA): "3 sheep burner"
http://www.cdfreaks.com/reviews/ASUS-DR ... ter-Review

LG GSA-H42N: "3 sheep writer"
http://www.cdfreaks.com/reviews/LG-GSA- ... ter-Review


I don't want to question Kip's skills as a reviewer, but the DRW-1814 definitely isn't a 3 sheep burner. Also, have we ever seen an LG drive that is a 3 sheep burner?


No problem on questioning Kip's skills as a reviewer, it will only make him a better reviewer. Anyways, I believe you are 100% correct that the 1814 is not a three sheep burner. I no longer have the drive to be able to confirm this but I honestly believe that there was an honest mistake in the procedure during that review and I apologize for the misinformation.

PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 7:39 am
by Ian
Thanks for straightening things out kipper.