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MediumRare wrote: I don't know what kind of mobo you have, but some people with NVidia chipsets have reported problems with the NVidia IDE-drivers. If this applies to your rig, try using the original MS drivers.

G

Hey, good idea... I am using those drivers (mobo os a Abit AN7), so this can very well be the reason... I'll try it...

Ian, have you been in touch with Karr lately? There seems to be a new version (2.4.2) around.

G

I'm sure there is. I've been a little busy this week.

Ask and you shall receive...

KProbe2 v2.4.2 - 9/01/2004

http://www.cdrlabs.com/files/KP2Setup242.exe

Changelog:

1. Remove realtime chart option
2. Add Sampling/Errors count

Just a note.. While I asked people not to link directly to our KProbe files, some websites have persisted in doing so. We've now made it so that you can only download them from links at cdrlabs.com. If you want to link to new versions, send people to the KProbe page:

http://www.cdrlabs.com/kprobe/

Thanks Ian. I found this update info for the intermediate version 2.4.1:

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1. Added summary report option
2. Fix bug: Charts are broken when scan contains errors
3. Change the algorithm for calculating average

I like the summary report, but it's nice to have it optional. It would be good if it included the program version no. too, though.

The average PIF values were corrected and are now ca. 8x higher, the totals and max. don't change.

The sampling algorithm seems to be changed again, though- the average length of a PI sample in a 2x scan increased from ca. 124 to ca. 140.

G

Date : 01/03/2005 10:13:30 PM
Model : 1-0-1-0 LITE-ON DVD SOHD-167T 9S19
Disc : DVD-ROM , [CMC Magnetics Corporation]
Speed : Max
ECC blocks sum (PI/PIF) : 8/1
Scanned range : 0 - 2275951
Sampling count : 110760
Errors : 0
PI Max : 713
PI Average : 77.96
PI Total : 1312959
PIF Max : 146
PIF Average : 4.34
PIF Total : 72993


is that consider a good burn i have no idea what all this stuff means .

Hello!

A questuion: Is a Liteon DVD-writer ok for testing CD-R´s with KProbe or do I need a CD-writer?

I've found that my SOHW-1213S (@1633S) is not reliable for CD testing. It shows C1 levels of essentially 0, but has the occasional spike of C1 and C2 errors- so I don't think it's reporting these low levels just because is a good reader (which it is). I use my LTR-48246S for testing CD's.

G

Yeah, I don't use the DVD writers for CD-R testing. I find that using a CD-RW drive is a better indicator.

Hello!

Thanks for the answers, MediumRare and Ian

Any experiences with a combo-drive?

ok just got my litey sohc-5232k from the fedex man

threw it in, master on its own ide, just like 108 is master on its own ide

i installed 2.4.2 kprobe

click to run it, and bamm, computer restart, no warning just pops into my video card memory testing screen then my bios start screen then into windows

WTF is going on?

Did it lock up as soon as you started the program or after starting a scan?

The only time KProbe has done anything like that to me is when I tried to scan without ASPI being installed or on a drive without a MediaTek chipset. KProbe2 now includes Force ASPI and silently installs ASPI 4.60, so that shouldn't be a problem anymore.

Make sure that you're trying to scan from the LiteOn drive and not your Pioneer.

G
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MediumRare wrote:G
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CONGRATULATIONS !!!

it happens as soon i start the kprobe program, i don't even see the program start it reboots so fast

and yes i have forcespi installed so i already have 4.6 winaspi loaded

dodecahedron at 1:54 a.m. his time wrote:

MediumRare wrote:G
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CONGRATULATIONS !!!

Thanks for the flowers. What were you doing up at 2 a.m.? Do you manage Yoav's night-time feeding?

hoxlund wrote:it happens as soon i start the kprobe program, i don't even see the program start it reboots so fast

Well the only thing I can suggest is that you download the KProbe2 installation file again and install it once more- it may have been corrupt.

If that doesn't work, download CD-DVD-Speed. It tests C1/C2 (CD's) and PI/PIF (DVDs) as well and works with more drives, including newer Pioneer's (although that may still be buggy).

G

yeah i installed again from fresh download

same thing, even ran killaspi from forceaspi, then installed kprob, still same thing

reason i want to use it, is because im burning 60 audio cds for this couple's wedding and printing a custom top on it with my R300

its only one song that lasts 4:49 and when i scan it with both drives in cd/speed it comes back with 0 for PI and P0, can that be possible?

hoxlund wrote:its only one song that lasts 4:49 and when i scan it with both drives in cd/speed it comes back with 0 for PI and P0, can that be possible?

Possible, yeah.. maybe the errors kick in later?

dvdinfopro can't scan cds yet, thats what it tells me

Sorry, I should have mentioned this earlier- LiteOn combo-drives (like DVD-Rom) aren't very reliable for scanning CD's- they return the C1/C2 (not PI- that's DVD) in "cooked" mode. The numbers are much lower than on a CD burner.
I think if you use good media, you should be OK with your audio disks these days. CDR's are a mature technology.

Incidentally, KProbe and CD-Speed give you the same C1/C2 numbers on LiteOn drives.

G

hoxlund wrote:it happens as soon i start the kprobe program, i don't even see the program start it reboots so fast

hoxlund- there was a thread at cdfreaks about precisely your problem. The actual cause for the rebooting wasn't found, but they managed to fix it by switching the driver from ASPI to SPTI. They had to do this in safe mode, but once it's changed, it stays changed.

G

MediumRare wrote:...but they managed to fix it by switching the driver from ASPI to SPTI. They had to do this in safe mode, but once it's changed, it stays changed.

out of curiousity, how do you switch from ASPI to SPTI ?
do you mean inside KProbe (i.e. this is a software thing) or somewhere in Windows ?

yeah they just say switch to spti, don't say how to do it

i know how to do it in dvd decrypter, its actually spti by default

but anyone know how to change windows to spti instead of aspi?

and what are the disadvantages and/or advantages using spti over aspi

OK it's a setting inside KProbe.
(and this doesn't help hoxlund since he can't get to the program!)

i know there are other applications that offer switching between SPTI and ASPI.
is there a Windows setting?

dodecahedron wrote:OK it's a setting inside KProbe.
(and this doesn't help hoxlund since he can't get to the program!)

Those guys said to boot in safe mode- you know: press F8. Apparently they could start KProbe then. I can try changing this later (I have to leave for work in 15 min) and see which registry key gets changed. But try safe mode first!

I don't know what the pros and cons of ASPI/SPTI are- I use ASPI because I haven't had problems with it.

G

OK it's simple to change the driver in the registry:
- start the registry editor regedit
- go to "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\KProbe"
- change the value of the key "SPTI" from 0 to 1

Or you can create a file "SPTI.reg" in notepad or whatever and paste this text:

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Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\KProbe]
"SPTI"=dword:00000001


Double click the file (or if you've deactivated that, use the context menu to merge it) and you're done.

G