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Has anyone seen a drive that support Taiyo Yuden's 8x DVD-RDL *AT* 8x? I thought TYG11 was going to be a 4x DVD-RDL, since that's the maximum speed I've always seen it supported at!

Probably the first time I've seen Taiyo Yuden media forced into an underclock by the firmware!

Maybe good media for backup data

On the other hand, maybe many DVD-player have problems with this -R DL

dolphinius_rex wrote:Has anyone seen a drive that support Taiyo Yuden's 8x DVD-RDL *AT* 8x?

At least the media tables of liteon 160P6S, 165P6S, 160H6S, 165H6S firmwares list TYG11 as 8x media, which does not necessarily mean that 8x write speed is really implemented in the firmware.

ala42 wrote:At least the media tables of liteon 160P6S, 165P6S, 160H6S, 165H6S firmwares list TYG11 as 8x media, which does not necessarily mean that 8x write speed is really implemented in the firmware.

Do u think the Liteons will not burn them at 8x or the writers not really optimized for 8x with this media?

I simply checked all firmwares which are supported by MCSE for the TYG11 media code. The latest LG, NEC, Pioneer and Samsung drives do not support TYG11 at all. The Benq 1650/55 support it at 4x, Plextor 755/760 support it, probably at 6x. The latest LiteOn drives support it at 8x. This is what the media tables indicate.

ala42 wrote:I simply checked all firmwares which are supported by MCSE for the TYG11 media code. The latest LG, NEC, Pioneer and Samsung drives do not support TYG11 at all. The Benq 1650/55 support it at 4x, Plextor 755/760 support it, probably at 6x. The latest LiteOn drives support it at 8x. This is what the media tables indicate.

Thanks ala42!

It's kind of scary that Pioneer drives don't support TYG11 at all!!
Heh, and I thought YUDEN000T03 was poorly supported!!

Any word/rumor on the possibility of a Yuden +R DL?

Grain wrote:Any word/rumor on the possibility of a Yuden +R DL?

Probably not:
http://club.cdfreaks.com/showpost.php?p ... stcount=14

Despite Koba on CDFreaks, there *IS* a possability of DVD+RDL from TY. That does *NOT* mean there WILL be, but it's not ruled out at this point.

Personally, I'm hoping that after TY's DVD-RDL media fails utterly and completely, they'll learn something

Alternatively, if TY's DVD-RDL media actually WORKS, compared to say Verbatim's, then we won't need DVD+RDL from them.

EDIT:
FYI, only about ~50% of players have been tested to work with DVD-RDL media on Videohelp.com, that's why I say DVD-RDL will fail utterly and completely. It's not like it hasn't been around for a while by now too. So that means that even *NEW* players are not compatible!!

dolphinius_rex wrote:Altnernatively, if TY's DVD-RDL media actually WORKS, compared to say Verbatim's, then we won't need DVD+RDL from them.

There's no way to make an inherently incompatible format compatible

[buck] wrote:

dolphinius_rex wrote:Altnernatively, if TY's DVD-RDL media actually WORKS, compared to say Verbatim's, then we won't need DVD+RDL from them.

There's no way to make an inherently incompatible format compatible

I agree, I don't think that there is anything that can be done to make DVD-RDL a good format... but I keep trying to hold out hope that maybe Taiyo Yuden and/or Maxell know something about the format that makes this whole thing make more sense.