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Disc rotation speeds, RPM, sectors per second.

PostPosted: Fri Nov 17, 2017 5:36 am
by TL7
SOURCE: my post on VideoHelp. Also posting on MyCe. http://forum.videohelp.com/threads/3858 ... -second%29

Hello.
What I know is that the same rotation speed of a disc allows ×2.4 for 12cm (×1.6 for 8cm diameter) faster data reading at the outer edge.

Because I am extremely knowledge thirsty and inquisitive, I thought that the community on VideoHelp can help me with my endless knowledge hunger. I keep a list of many questions I will maybe ask and topics (for example: calculating lossless digital zoom and loss value)

I would like to know the relationships of the following parameters of CD, DVD, HD-DVD and BD (and HVD?).
Rotation speed at CAV (unchanging rotation speed) ×1 or ×1.6 or ×2.4 = how many rotations per minute (RPM) or per second?
×1 CLV (same reading speed, varying rotation speed) speed = How many sectors per second?
Are the values slightly different for DVD+, DVD-, DVD-DL and DVD-RAM?
Is 1× on a CD 150 or 176.4 KiB/s? [2352×(1500/1764)=2000!].

This can also be useful for calculating the rotation speed acoustically.
SCSi is partially crippled. The PC only knows the disc rotation speed by the data rate, not by the disc drive rotation engine.

I hope that the community can provide useful information, and I would appreciate it.

Re: Disc rotation speeds, RPM, sectors per second.

PostPosted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 3:37 pm
by Ian
I can answer the data rate for 1x pretty easily. I'm going to borrow this nice graphic from Wikipedia.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CD_and_DVD_writing_speed

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And RPM's for CD's

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CD-ROM

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Re: Disc rotation speeds, RPM, sectors per second.

PostPosted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 3:49 pm
by Ian
If we're to compare that to say a DVD, it spins about 3 times faster (edit.. its actually 570rpm.. so not quite 3x) than a CD at 1x. With its greater data rate, its equivalent to a CD being read at about 9x. With DVD's spinning about 3x faster, this also explains why we don't see any DVD drives faster than 18x since it would spin about as fast as a 54x CD-ROM.

(Again.. thank you Wikipedia) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DVD_recor ... s_and_DVDs

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Re: Disc rotation speeds, RPM, sectors per second.

PostPosted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 3:54 pm
by Ian
And then you have Blu-ray, which has a data rate of 36 Mbit/s at 1x. I'm not sure what the RPMs are though. Anyone know? I've come across references saying that a drive spins at 10,000 RPM at 12x, but nothing for 1x.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blu-ray_Disc_recordable

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Re: Disc rotation speeds, RPM, sectors per second.

PostPosted: Wed Jan 24, 2018 5:40 am
by TL7
Alright, thank you, @Ian.

Any information about HD-DVD? https://club.myce.com/t/universal-open- ... res/399945 https://club.myce.com/t/did-hd-dvd-lose ... ity/400153

Usual limitations (desktop,slim):

·• CD: 48×,24×.
·• DVD: 16×,8×.
·• BD: 12×,6×.