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S.M.A.R.T DISK MONITOR

PostPosted: Sun Aug 03, 2003 11:14 pm
by omega
For some reason i was bord and decieded to enable this option in my bios. Now when i started my pc it detected and wrror on one of the drives i got. I've done many tests and the drive is fine no errors reported, the drive has been going for over 2 years with this smart error message. Now my question is, how do i get rid of this SMART warning. It haults the booting sequance untill i press F1. I have disabled,flashed my bios and it will not remove. I also formated and done a /MBR on the driv. Any ideas???

PostPosted: Sun Aug 03, 2003 11:36 pm
by BurninMan921
The drive may be dead/dying if you're getting the SMART error...what's the exact error message? And what brand of drive is it? Check the manufactures web site for explanations of said error message; and what action you'll need to take (return the drive, run one of their drive diaganostic programs, etc)...

PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2003 12:43 am
by CignaXI
Use this program, here's the link:
Speed Fan

It acces the SMART code of your drive and tells you if your dirves is dying or not. I guess that your drive is too old now to claim the warranty but check if it still has it. Good Luck!

PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2003 10:55 am
by omega
thank you. but this is not saying any errors. so how do i remove that annoying smart message with this program??

PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2003 11:04 am
by omega
it just says S.M.A.R.T has detected an error on drive... we recommend that you backup your data right away.

it's a Maxtor hdd 30gigs 7200rpm

that's about what it says.

PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2003 1:21 am
by CignaXI
Well then you can't get rid of that error. Just disable the SMART option on your bios. It could be that your drive is really dying or an error of your HD's SMART mechanism. Either way you should check if your HD has some warranty left or start shopping for a new HD.

PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2003 10:21 am
by omega
i disabled the smart option in the bios, but it stills gives me this error message.

PostPosted: Wed Aug 06, 2003 1:40 pm
by CignaXI
Have you tested the HD in another machine? You should also check the cables?

PostPosted: Wed Aug 06, 2003 9:18 pm
by omega
yep indeed i have tested the drive in another pc and the msg is not there.

PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2003 9:30 am
by CignaXI
Then it could be your mobo, you should search for a website with support for your mobo and see if someone else is having the same problem. If you tested your drive in a 2nd PC with SMART support and it didn't detected any error chances are that your HD is just fine. Sorry that I can't be of any more help but there's nothing more that occurs to me right now that you can do.

PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2003 1:36 am
by yuki chan
try this utility it will give true information that is not mb specific

http://www.adenix.net/downloads.php#SmartExplorer

hi

PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2003 10:44 am
by omega
thanks for the tool i tried it out this is what it is saying.


Device Maxtor 53073H4

Pre-Failure

what's this mean??

PostPosted: Wed Sep 03, 2003 12:52 am
by yuki chan
an option exsists to make a report on the selected drive

do this and the value that is bellow the rating will tell you what is failing upon the drive

what's all tis mean?

PostPosted: Wed Sep 03, 2003 10:19 am
by omega
Attribute PW OC PE ER EC SP Value Worst Threshold Status flags Raw value
1 (Raw Read Error Rate) * * * 253 252 0 0x001c 0000000002d0
3 (Spin Up Time) * * * 183 182 63 0x0027 00000000486a
4 (Start/Stop Count) * * 253 253 0 0x0032 00000000023b
5 (Reallocated Sector Count) * * * 105 105 63 0x0033 000000000176
6 (Read Channel Margin) * 253 253 100 0x0001 000000000000
7 (Seek Error Rate) * * * 253 252 0 0x001c 000000000000
8 (Seek Time Performance) * * * 253 244 187 0x0027 00000000faf0
9 (Power On Hours Count) * * 253 250 0 0x0032 000000004007
10 (Spin Retry Count) * * * * * 201 196 223 0x003d 00000000001e
11 (Calibration Retry Count) * * * * * 253 251 223 0x003d 000000000000
12 (Power Cycle Count) * * 250 250 0 0x0032 000000000547
196 (Reallocation Event Count) * 253 253 0 0x0008 000000000000
197 (Current Pending Sector Count) * 252 252 0 0x0008 000000000001
198 (Off-line Scan Uncorrectable Sector Count) * 253 253 0 0x0008 000000000000
199 (Ultra DMA CRC Error Count) * 199 199 0 0x0008 000000000000
200 * * * 253 252 0 0x001c 000000000000
201 * * * 253 252 0 0x001c 000000000003
202 * * * 253 252 0 0x001c 000000000000
203 * * * * 253 252 180 0x001d 000000000000
204 * * * 253 252 0 0x001c 000000000000
205 * * * 253 252 0 0x001c 000000000000
207 * * * * 224 222 0 0x003c 000000000011
208 * * * * 236 232 0 0x003c 00000000000a
209 * * 253 253 0 0x0024 000000000000
96 * 253 253 0 0x0004 000000000000
97 * 253 253 0 0x0004 000000000000
98 * 253 253 0 0x0004 000000000000
99 * 253 253 0 0x0004 000000000000
100 * 253 253 0 0x0004 000000000000
101 * 253 253 0 0x0004 000000000000

PostPosted: Wed Sep 03, 2003 6:27 pm
by yuki chan
The problem seem to be in what the Spin Retry Count is stating

The value should be above the threshold point in this case (It could just be how the drive works)

In the case of a real problem being cased by this you should notice strange idle or power-on sounds coming from the drive

If it gets worse your drive is about to fail (listen for sounds out of the ordinary first)

PostPosted: Wed Sep 03, 2003 10:10 pm
by omega
ahhhh good point. i do have problems of it starting up. when i somtimes turn my PC on it doesnt go on the HDD. after powering off and on it goes up eventually. Is there anything i can do to fix this??

PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2003 12:10 am
by yuki chan
backup!!!!!!

your drive is starting to go bad so dont expect much more than 1000 power on hours before more goes wrong

PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2003 11:03 am
by omega
it's been doing this for over 2 years now.

PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2003 6:39 pm
by yuki chan
in that case you have a semi defective drive so dont worry about it until the value drops alot more

PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2003 9:43 pm
by omega
so how would i stop this "warning smart..." everytime it loads the pc where it detects the drive. Cus it stops the loading process.

PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2003 12:27 am
by yuki chan
look at maxtor to see if they have a recertify utility (it will format your drive but may fix the problem if not the control might have gone bad)

PostPosted: Sun Sep 07, 2003 8:47 pm
by omega
maxtor doesnt have anything usefull. i formated the drive and did a MBR fdisk no go. SMART is also disabled in the bios. Any ideas why it is even still loading smart dedection even if it's disabled?

PostPosted: Mon Sep 08, 2003 11:48 pm
by integspec
Guys,

Try this utility:

http://www.ariolic.com/activesmart/

It will let you know whenever the values change in your drive (even the Temperature). It loads at boot time and keeps an eye on stuff. Better start backing up your data and start saving for a new drive.

Cheers.

PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2003 12:17 am
by CDRecorder
yaoi_boy_heero wrote:look at maxtor to see if they have a recertify utility (it will format your drive but may fix the problem if not the control might have gone bad)


Maxtor does offer a utility with this functionality. It's called PowerMax. I'd recommend giving this a try.

PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2003 8:47 am
by omega
okay, i will try this utility and post what happens.

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