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A spindle of 100 TDK +R's (4x) for $99.99 this week (Starting Feb 01, 2004)
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Look for the Grey spindle to get Ricoh as I have read in other threads the one with the black spindle are CMC magnetics, which will not burn at 8x speeds on 8x DVD-Burners.

I bought 2x25 packs with black spindles last week, and they were ricohs... Don't know about the 100 packs.

damn just bought 1 100pack at bestbuy, they're CMC

I thought only memorex switched to CMC, damn damn damn

waver123 wrote:damn just bought 1 100pack at bestbuy, they're CMC

I thought only memorex switched to CMC, damn damn damn

Did you get a grey or black spindle?

vsekh wrote:

waver123 wrote:damn just bought 1 100pack at bestbuy, they're CMC

I thought only memorex switched to CMC, damn damn damn

Did you get a grey or black spindle?

It's not jet black, more like a grey black. The color is in-between the memorex grey and black spindle.

Also I noticed they'd 2 kind of tdk spindles, one has a lot more of those white circular rings on top than the other one. I got the one with a lot of rings. The edge of the discs seem to be more smooth than the other one so I got it and it's CMC

ive got these from bestbuy
it is
RICOHJPNR01.8

but it doesnt burn at 8x speed only 4x ,altrought the nero says 8x

I picked one up today, but haven't opened it. It doesnt have the traditional plastic rings at the top, instead it has one really tall thick ring (looks like rubber or foam?). Anyone have any idea what brand these would be?

Edit: After closer observation I noticed that it isn't one big tall ring, but 4 or 5 foam rings stacked ontop of another.

I saw the same one at Best Buy today. Was kind of scared it might be the CMC discs, so I did not buy it.

They might be Ricoh brand since waver123 bought the one with a lot of plastic rings, which ended up being CMC discs.

waver123, can you help me out in trying to figure if the 100 pack I got are CMC? It's hard to tell, but I can make out a number on the edge of the center (not the clear plastic ring, but where the writable label meets the center of the disc). It reads SSOW3A-###### (# = string of numbers and/or letters; too hard to make out). Can you check if your CMC discs have a similar string?

LionKing, can you describe how your spindle was packaged? Did it have a bunch of foam/rubber rings or were they plastic? Any numbers like I described above?

How bad are CMC DVD+R? Are they as bad as their cd-rs once were/are?

first of all it was two rubber/foam rings
second here is the id:

** INFO : Hex Dump Of 'Media Code'-Block Listed Below
** INFO : 4-Byte Header Preceding 'Media Code'-Block Discarded
** INFO : Format 11h (Method 1) - ADIP Information
0000 : a1 0f 02 00 00 03 00 00 00 26 05 3f 00 00 00 00 .........&.?....
0010 : 00 00 01 52 49 43 4f 48 4a 50 4e 52 30 31 02 38 ...RICOHJPNR01.8
0020 : 23 54 37 09 00 3c 67 00 ac 62 16 18 0b 0b 0a 0b #T7..<g..b......
0030 : 01 19 1b 0b 0b 0e 0f 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
0040 : 01 00 38 38 00 32 5e 20 0a 22 22 10 0e 12 12 01 ..88.2^ ."".....
0050 : 00 00 00 32 5e 20 0a 22 22 10 0e 12 12 01 00 00 ...2^ ."".......
0060 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
0070 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
0080 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
0090 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00a0 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00b0 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00c0 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00d0 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00e0 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00f0 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
third thing is:

** INFO : An Empty Writable Disc Is Recommended For Accurate Results
** INFO : PLEXTOR DVDR PX-708A [FW 1.04]
** INFO : [DVD+R:RICOHJPN-R01-002]
** INFO : Write Speeds (Supported By This Drive On This Disc) Listed Below

** INFO : GET PERFORMANCE Write Speed Descriptor(s)
Descriptor #1 = 11080 KBPS (8.00x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV]
Descriptor #2 = 5540 KBPS (4.00x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV]
Descriptor #3 = 3324 KBPS (2.40x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV]

** INFO : MODE SENSE Write Speed Descriptor(s) [Legacy Command]
Descriptor #1 = 11080 KBPS (8.00x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV]
Descriptor #2 = 5540 KBPS (4.00x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV]
Descriptor #3 = 3324 KBPS (2.40x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV]
enjoy guys!

Lionking, thanks for the info about how many foam rings were on your spindle. Unfortunatly the rest of the info you gave wont help out much, as I am trying to find out if the spindle I got are CMC without openeing the package. Can you tell me if your discs have a number physically printed on the edge of the center (not the clear plastic ring, but where the writable label meets the center of the disc). The discs I have says:

SSOW3A-######

(# = string of numbers and/or letters; too hard to make out through the plastic spindle).

yes there is a code but on the internal ring close to the hole

there is one more code it is very hard 2 recognize it is at the beginning of the burning areait starts:D1109A32.............

Damn, thats a different layout than mine, so I'm guessing I got CMC. I'll go back to BestBuy today and see if they have any other spindles that look different...

Hi Infinity,
Sorry I'm at work, will post code once I got back home. You can download a program to figure out the code (dvdinfo?). The one I got is the one with many rings. I'm not sure if I should try my luck again with the one with 2 ring

sorry
at least u didnt open so u can return!
have fun

Infinity wrote:Lionking, thanks for the info about how many foam rings were on your spindle. Unfortunatly the rest of the info you gave wont help out much, as I am trying to find out if the spindle I got are CMC without openeing the package. Can you tell me if your discs have a number physically printed on the edge of the center (not the clear plastic ring, but where the writable label meets the center of the disc). The discs I have says:

SSOW3A-######

(# = string of numbers and/or letters; too hard to make out through the plastic spindle).

Infinity looks like we have the same disks.
actually you're looking it from the wrong way, you should read it from the bottom side of the disk. Mine is

C+DR47G-AFWO22

from the top you read AFWO22 into SSOW3A

waver123,

LOL, I was wondering why some of the numbers looked funny. Anyway, thanks for the confirmation. I guess I'll return them since I still havent opened the package.