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TDK at BB again

PostPosted: Sun Mar 27, 2005 8:05 am
by ETP

PostPosted: Sun Mar 27, 2005 2:05 pm
by TCAS
etp;

By my own experience I am not too impressed with TDK brand, many time I have had closed to %30 defective on pack of 50. Last week (may be still is ) Staples they Maxell DVD-R/+R (8X) on sale for $14.94 for the pack of 50. The -R can be burned with NEC 3500 at 16X.

PostPosted: Sun Mar 27, 2005 4:50 pm
by ETP
TCAS! Do I chance it through the mail. My nearest Staples is 2 hours.

PostPosted: Sun Mar 27, 2005 6:33 pm
by dolphinius_rex
It seems TDK has had a lot of bad media lately.... and not just from one of their suppliers, but from a couple different ones. It's gotta suck to be them! :o

PostPosted: Sun Mar 27, 2005 9:11 pm
by dodecahedron
TCAS wrote:By my own experience I am not too impressed with TDK brand, many time I have had closed to %30 defective on pack of 50.

does that include TY (made in Japan) TDKs ?

PostPosted: Sun Mar 27, 2005 9:39 pm
by dolphinius_rex
dodecahedron wrote:
TCAS wrote:By my own experience I am not too impressed with TDK brand, many time I have had closed to %30 defective on pack of 50.

does that include TY (made in Japan) TDKs ?


Has anyone ever seen proof that Taiyo Yuden was making any TDK media? I have strong doubts of it personally.

PostPosted: Sun Mar 27, 2005 11:52 pm
by Bhairav
dolphinius_rex wrote:
dodecahedron wrote:
TCAS wrote:By my own experience I am not too impressed with TDK brand, many time I have had closed to %30 defective on pack of 50.

does that include TY (made in Japan) TDKs ?


Has anyone ever seen proof that Taiyo Yuden was making any TDK media? I have strong doubts of it personally.


Bunch of reports from CDFreaks and here.. Yuden000T02 for the 8X +R discs.

PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 12:30 am
by dodecahedron
dolphinius_rex wrote:
dodecahedron wrote:
TCAS wrote:By my own experience I am not too impressed with TDK brand, many time I have had closed to %30 defective on pack of 50.

does that include TY (made in Japan) TDKs ?


Has anyone ever seen proof that Taiyo Yuden was making any TDK media? I have strong doubts of it personally.

yep.
i have them in my hand.
TDK DVD+R 8x Made in Japan.

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Unique Disc Identifier : [DVD+R:YUDEN000-T02-000]
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Disc & Book Type : [DVD+R] - [Not Available]
Manufacturer Name : [Taiyo Yuden Co. Ltd.]
Manufacturer ID : [YUDEN000]
Media Type ID : [T02]
Product Revision : [Not Specified]
Blank Disc Capacity : [2,295,104 Sectors = 4,482.6MB = 4.38GB (4.70GB)]
Recording Speeds : [1x , 2.4x , 4x , 6x-8x]
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[ DVD Identifier - http://DVD.Identifier.CDfreaks.com ]
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Code: Select all
0000 : a1 0f 02 00 00 03 00 00  00 26 05 3f 00 00 00 00   .........&.?....
0010 : 00 00 03 59 55 44 45 4e  30 30 30 54 30 32 00 38   ...YUDEN000T02.8
0020 : 23 54 37 10 02 4e 72 02  8c 63 16 16 0b 0b 0a 0a   #T7..Nr..c......
0030 : 01 19 1b 0c 0c 0c 0d 01  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00   ................
0040 : 01 00 38 38 02 34 63 13  05 22 22 10 0e 12 12 01   ..88.4c.."".....
0050 : 00 00 02 34 63 13 05 22  22 10 0e 12 12 01 00 00   ...4c.."".......
0060 : 02 00 54 70 02 4e 64 4a  20 11 08 08 01 18 00 00   ..Tp.NdJ .......
0070 : 00 00 02 67 64 4e 20 10  08 08 01 18 00 00 00 30   ...gdN ........0
0080 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00   ................

PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 12:32 am
by dolphinius_rex
Bhairav wrote:
dolphinius_rex wrote:
dodecahedron wrote:
TCAS wrote:By my own experience I am not too impressed with TDK brand, many time I have had closed to %30 defective on pack of 50.

does that include TY (made in Japan) TDKs ?


Has anyone ever seen proof that Taiyo Yuden was making any TDK media? I have strong doubts of it personally.


Bunch of reports from CDFreaks and here.. Yuden000T02 for the 8X +R discs.


Ahh, ok. That still doesn't prove anything. I know that Mitsui is using YUDEN000T02 for their 8x DVD+Rs now, and I ALSO know that Mitsui is a supplier of TDK media. I'm pretty sure that MITSUI also has a Japanese plant still too.

PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 12:39 am
by dodecahedron
OK fine then.
then how is that quality of this media?

back to the question i asked of TCAS.
he said he's been having rather iffy TDK media, and i asked if that comment also applies to TDK media with TY MID code? (whoever it's made by - TY of Mitsui).

PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 2:21 am
by dolphinius_rex
dodecahedron wrote:OK fine then.
then how is that quality of this media?

back to the question i asked of TCAS.
he said he's been having rather iffy TDK media, and i asked if that comment also applies to TDK media with TY MID code? (whoever it's made by - TY of Mitsui).


Well, I don't happen to get a lot of TDK made in Japan media in Canada :o

And since Mitsui won't bring in any 8x DVD+Rs yet either, I'm a little stuck. But I'm rather unimpressed with Mitsui's 8x DVD-Rs with TDK code (TTG02).

If all goes well however, I might have *1* piece of Mitsui's YUDEN000T02 media in 2-3 weeks (or maybe 4-6 weeks, it's going regular post from Europe!).

PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 3:32 am
by TCAS
dodecahedron wrote:OK fine then.
then how is that quality of this media?

back to the question i asked of TCAS.
he said he's been having rather iffy TDK media, and i asked if that comment also applies to TDK media with TY MID code? (whoever it's made by - TY of Mitsui).


I was refering to TDK 8X (MID Code CMC MAG E01) made in Tiwan, I have yet to see any TDK brand made in Japan. I have Fuji MID TY T02 (8X DVD+R)made in Japan burns beautifully in my NEC 3500 at 16X without any problem at all.

PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 5:19 am
by dodecahedron
@TCAS:
thanks for setting my mind at rest.

@dolphin:
when you do get it, let us know how good it is.

PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 5:36 am
by dolphinius_rex
dodecahedron wrote:@dolphin:
when you do get it, let us know how good it is.


Always!! :D

PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 3:00 pm
by Buck
Just by the way - I noticed on a PX-716UF in Plextools, the 'Media Test' function says that it cannot burn reliably to TDK 8x DVD-R media at 8x! Let alone 12x of course. On 4x and 6x it says 'the drive may fail to optimize parameters due to poor characteristics of this media'. Well, just what it says. Anyone else tried the 'media test' thingie in plextools, btw?

PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 3:27 pm
by dodecahedron
Buck wrote:Just by the way - I noticed on a PX-716UF in Plextools, the 'Media Test' function says that it cannot burn reliably to TDK 8x DVD-R media at 8x! Let alone 12x of course. On 4x and 6x it says 'the drive may fail to optimize parameters due to poor characteristics of this media'. Well, just what it says. Anyone else tried the 'media test' thingie in plextools, btw?

again, what media is that 8x TDK ?

Re: TDK at BB again

PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 11:49 pm
by VEFF
ETP wrote:http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=6886293&type=product&productCategoryId=cat01163&id=1095432940900

Just look for the MIJ


Thanks ETP!

It seems weekly sale prices at CUSA, BB, CC etc. have stabilized
at a consistent 40 cents a disc (without rebates and Price Matches (PMs)).

I got spoiled by 3 very cheap media deals in partcular (one at Staples and two at BestBuy that were later increased after apparently both being price mistakes even though we didn't know it at the time since the correction happened 3 or 4 DAYS later) in the past 6 months or so and I have yet to open them, except for ONE 15 pack of TDK 4X +R that I just started.

PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 1:53 am
by hiwass
I've noticed that TDK 8x + MIJ are Yudens but what about 8x - TDA MIJ? Are they also Yuden?