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WSES screen capture. Is this an ok result for C1 & C2 ?

Postby Spazmogen on Wed Dec 11, 2002 5:00 pm

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This is only the 2nd time I tried WSES, so I'm not sure if this is a low or high result. I'm thinking it's probably a low result.

The disc was the 52x Lite On branded one that came with my LTR-52246S. I burned it @ 52x. CD Speed showed it to be error free.
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Postby cfitz on Wed Dec 11, 2002 5:07 pm

It sure is. That is a good quality burn.

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Postby glock20rocks on Wed Dec 11, 2002 5:18 pm

Where did you get WSES? I've been trying to find and haven't been able to find it...
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Postby dhc014 on Wed Dec 11, 2002 5:42 pm

Since WSES is potentially dangerous, it is a bad idea to make it easily available. Send me an email to someone who has it.
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Postby MikeTR on Wed Dec 11, 2002 5:52 pm

How big is this WSES file? I might already have it (but no Lite-On to check right now).
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Postby Spazmogen on Wed Dec 11, 2002 6:01 pm

WSES is only 266kb, but it's a TRUE DOS program. It will not run in a DOS window.

You also need ST.exe to get the DOS screen captures.

The entire .zip file I have is 862kb but it has a few firmwares in it too. I just deleted them though.
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Postby MikeTR on Wed Dec 11, 2002 6:06 pm

OK, it seems to be the same one. Thanks.
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Postby voltron on Wed Dec 11, 2002 6:10 pm

I have no problem running it in Windows from cmd.exe
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Postby voltron on Wed Dec 11, 2002 6:14 pm

The result you got is a little deceving because in Ian's reviews, the Y axis C1-error limit is from 0-50, and yours is from 0-200, but I still believe it would look very decent on a 0-50 scale.
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Postby Spazmogen on Wed Dec 11, 2002 6:15 pm

A user guide to WSES: http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php ... adid=51738

The scale I used was the default one.

The guide is where I got that it will not run in a DOS Window.

I just ran it from a true DOS prompt.


As for where I got it-or from whom-sorry, I won't be telling.

That was a condition of me getting it in the 1st place. :wink:
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Postby Spazmogen on Wed Dec 11, 2002 9:49 pm

voltron wrote:The result you got is a little deceving because in Ian's reviews, the Y axis C1-error limit is from 0-50, and yours is from 0-200, but I still believe it would look very decent on a 0-50 scale.


Thanks, I hadn't noticed Ian's scale was @ 50.

So, here's another scan with a scale of 50.

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It's a far cry from Ian's test on 48x TY discs. His is set at 74 minutes though, mine was at 80 minutes. I wonder if that makes a difference?

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48x TY Disc from Ian's review of the ASUS CRW-5224A.
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Postby Ian on Wed Dec 11, 2002 9:55 pm

I set mine at 100.
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Postby Spazmogen on Wed Dec 11, 2002 10:21 pm

OK. 100 it is.

Are you using 80 minute discs in those reviews? I just saw that wses was set for 74 minute discs. I tested 1 of each.

16x LG Branded (74 minute disc), burned @ 32x:
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Then the Lite On Branded 52x disc (80 minute) that came with the LTR 52246S drive:
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And TY's burned @ 48x from Ian's review mentioned above:
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So, the bottom line is are these C1 errors acceptable?

The 16x LG disc is ! I'm not sure about the 52x Lite On disc.
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Postby Ian on Wed Dec 11, 2002 10:33 pm

Yeah, I set it to 74 because thats how much data I burn to them.

I wouldn't be too concerned with those results. They're pretty good.
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Postby Spazmogen on Wed Dec 11, 2002 11:04 pm

Ian wrote:I wouldn't be too concerned with those results. They're pretty good.


Thanks. That's what I was hoping to hear.
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Postby voltron on Thu Dec 12, 2002 2:20 am

wses is widely available online
i would imagine if someone wanted it, they would search for it w/ google
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Postby jase on Thu Dec 12, 2002 7:53 am

Run a test on a pressed CD. You'll see that original discs actually have quite high C1 error rates.

The standards dictate a maximum C1 error rate of 200. I would say that as long as the disc peaks at less than 100, and averages at worst 20, you don't have a problem. The results you have posted are actually very good. Most discs will rise slightly above 70 minutes when recorded at 40x or above due to the rotation speed.
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