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Postby Needhelp on Sun Dec 15, 2002 11:45 pm

CAn anyone tell me the current DVD rom model that perform well in read cd/DVD ,fast in rip dvd and can read 99 min cd.
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Postby cfitz on Mon Dec 16, 2002 12:07 am

I like the LiteOn 166S. It is fast and inexpensive, and there are handy tools for easily making it region free. It is a tad noisy, though. Other people like the Pioneer slot-loading drives.

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Postby amebapk on Mon Dec 16, 2002 12:30 am

LITEON 16x, COOL, CHEAP, FAST
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Postby Needhelp on Mon Dec 16, 2002 4:20 am

hm..?
this the product that can be found in my country
Aopen,pioneer,liteon,asus,sony,benQ,samsung and cyber.
Does CDrom performance is better than DVD-rom.
I need a good drive that can tranfer cd to hDD.
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Postby cfitz on Mon Dec 16, 2002 4:26 am

If you are going to get a new read-only optical drive, I would recommend buying a DVD-ROM instead of a CD-ROM. A DVD-ROM drive can read CDs as fast as most CD-ROM drives, and also lets you read DVDs. And they aren't much more expense than plain CD-ROM drives.

Of the brands you list, I would choose LiteOn or Pioneer. Personally, I own a LiteOn LTD-166S, as I mentioned in my earlier post, and I am quite happy with it.

I would avoid the BenQ drives. I have found BenQ to be poor quality in general.

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Postby vbl117 on Mon Dec 16, 2002 6:37 am

My top three :

- Liteon LDT-163/LTD-165H/LTD-166S: cheapest , fastest extraction audio ( 48X max , in fact 49.7X with an original cd audio ) . Good copy protection . Noisy sometimes

- Asus E616 : best DVD-ROM drive for copying protection ( fastest ) . highest DVD-ripping speed .
But , not easy to find .

- Pionneer 106S : quietest DVD-ROM drive . No great defaults .

Avoid Benq because even their chipsets are known for their poor quality and poor performance ( ALI is a Benq subsidiary ) .

I have the LTD-166S . It is a very good CD-ROM/DVD-ROM drive and while reading DVD-Vidéo it makes few noise . Can read 99 minutes cd of course like all Lite-ON optical drives .
Take the LTD-166S or the Pioneer 106S ( or the Asus E616 if the fastest ripping/copying protection is the most important for you )

You can read the liteon , pioneer and asus reviews at www.cdrlabs.com and www.cdrinfo.com .
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Postby Needhelp on Tue Dec 17, 2002 3:06 am

Thanks for the info.
Actually i was about to buy pioneer 106s, but i found out the pioneer dvdrom is 16x/40x while like liteon is 16x/48x, so maybe the pioneer dvdrom would only have average performance.
Hmm.. but after i think for a while i guess liteon is not that bad after all.
i have another question, is it dvd rom has reach its limit?
16x dvd rom has been introduced for quite sometimes and the new model only has increased Cdrom speed to 48x.
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Postby cfitz on Tue Dec 17, 2002 3:50 am

There was a rumor that a chipset that would support a 20x DVD-ROM drive would come out, but that has yet to materialize. Maybe it never will.

Keep in mind that the data on a DVD is much denser than on a CD, so at the same physical rotational speed the actual data transfer rate is much higher.

Here are the differences:

CD 1x = 150 KB/s
DVD 1x = 1350 KB/s

Thus, DVD 1x = CD 9x, and a 16x DVD-ROM is the equivalent (in terms of data transfer rate) of a 144x CD-ROM.

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Postby Inertia on Tue Dec 17, 2002 5:10 am

In terms of rotation speed, a 1x DVD-ROM is turning at almost 3 times the rate of a 1x CD-ROM drive. A 1x DVD has a read head speed of 3.49 m/sec whereas a 1x CD reads at 1.2 m/sec. The DVD vs CD read speed is a ratio of 2.91 to 1.

Thus, a 16x DVD-ROM is spinning at almost the equivalent of a 48x CD-ROM drive.

A 20x DVD-ROM would be turning at about the equivalent of a 58x CD-ROM drive. :o :o

If used with discs with certain defects at this speed, this could cause the destructive centripetal force issues discussed recently.
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Postby dodecahedron on Tue Dec 17, 2002 5:28 am

Inertia wrote:In terms of rotation speed, a 1x DVD-ROM is turning at about 3 times the rate of a 1x CD-ROM drive.

thanks for the info, Inertia. i've been wondering about that...

the 9x factor in DATA TRANSFER RATE i knew about, but i didn't know about the 3x difference in ROTATION SPEEDS. that's an important point.
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Postby Needhelp on Tue Dec 17, 2002 7:09 am

Thank a lot guy.
i wonder if there any difference between pioneer DVDrom with slot and the tray?
Which is better?
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Postby Han on Tue Dec 17, 2002 8:24 am

vbl117 wrote:- Pionneer 106S : quietest DVD-ROM drive . No great defaults .

Definitely not true. Pioneer is quiet only if you set it to Quiet Mode by a special utility program. But then the drive performs really slow!

The quietest DVD-ROM might be Toshiba SD-M1712. Its only drawback is slow ripping speed.
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Postby vio_man on Tue Dec 17, 2002 6:03 pm

1. Asus drives are known to be too damned noisy (more than LiteOn ones).

2. Pioneer drives don't read sub-channel data correctly.

3. LiteOn drives use MediaTek controllers. The 20x DVD controller will be released by ALI, which is a crap.

I would advise you to buy the LiteOn 16x DVD-ROM drive. It noisy like any other drive at high speeds. When rotating at 10,000rpm no drive can be quiet.
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Postby Needhelp on Tue Dec 17, 2002 10:39 pm

hm.. i wouldn't mind if the drive is noisy or not .Well i think with the 6 fans running inside my casing i wouldn't think it will make much difference.
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Postby Gary Kokkin on Fri Dec 20, 2002 7:59 pm

What about SONY 16x40x DDU1621 ?

Is it good for a new buy ? Maybe is most quiet drive....
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Postby burticus on Sun Dec 29, 2002 8:19 pm

I have a liteon 16x dvd that works great and reads everything nice and fast but it is a noisy bastard. Since it's in my HTPC when watching movies it becomes fairly annoying during quiet parts and someone says "What is that noise?"

My Pioneer 16x slot drive in my primary PC is very quiet and reads well too. I saw the subcode gripe but I don't burn on this machine so it hasn't been an issue. You can't use 3" media though (or at least I haven't figured out how to).

So you can't really lose with the liteon which was half the price of my pioneer and works great. But if noise is a concern you might think about it.
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Lite-ons Are Quiet

Postby NeilPeart on Mon Dec 30, 2002 6:30 am

There might be a problem with your Lite-on DVD-ROM, as all my Lite-ons (LTD-163, 165H and 166S) play back movies virtually silently. While the drives do become noisy when transferring data, they are designed to play back movies at 2x (which is nearly silent). You should not hear the drive over the usual din of home theater equipment - even in very quiet scenes. I also have my LTD-166S in a home theater PC (Shuttle SB51G/Windows XP MCE) and it has worked flawlessly and quietly. 8)
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Asus S520/A, Plextor UltraPlex 40TSi, Lite-on XJ-HD166S, Pioneer DVD-106S, Toshiba SD-M1712, Plextor PX-R820Ti, Plextor PX-W1210TS, Plextor Premium, Samsung SM-352B, Teac CD-W540E, Yamaha CRW-F1, Plextor PX-708A, Sony DRU-510A
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Postby burticus on Mon Dec 30, 2002 11:23 am

Sorry... I should have stated that I was watching divx movies, which is all data anyway.
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