Scanners

by **ruderacer** on Wed Nov 26, 2003 2:09 am

Has anyone had any experience with the Canon 5000F? I'm looking to buy this scanner and any feedback would be great. Thanks

by **CowboySlim** on Wed Nov 26, 2003 12:25 pm

I have a minimal, 600 x 1200, scanner that I got at a real low price and it suits me quite well. Good for making faxes and copies of text material. Does a passable job, but not perfect, on photos. On that basis, the subject scanner, 2400 x 4800, is real overkill. However, a Canon 5000F would be my choice if I were to "accidently" spill my coffee on my current scanner (like after seeing the 5000 on sale for $100).

I've never scanned negatives, but from those that do a lot of that, the consensus is that the flat bed scanners, including those with built in 35mm film adapters, are not the best for that application. One should buy a specialized negative scanner.

Good luck,
Slim

by **dodecahedron** on Wed Nov 26, 2003 2:11 pm

search a bit in this forum, there were a couple of topics about scanners in the past with some recommendations and links.

by **dodecahedron** on Wed Nov 26, 2003 2:15 pm

here:

http://www.cdrlabs.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=12398
http://www.cdrlabs.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=10618
http://www.cdrlabs.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=13512

by **ruderacer** on Wed Nov 26, 2003 3:08 pm

Thanks for the info. I'll probably pick it up this weekend.

by **dodecahedron** on Wed Nov 26, 2003 3:38 pm

welcome

let us know how you like it/how good it is when you get it.
i'm thinking of something like that too.

by **eliminator** on Wed Nov 26, 2003 6:26 pm

I had the 5000F, great scanner & the price just dropped to $130 at some places... replaced it with lide80, just for the size... :wink:

by **CowboySlim** on Wed Nov 26, 2003 7:33 pm

Hey, eliminator,

I've looked at that LiDE 80, also. Both it and the 5000F are 2400 x 4800. What are the functional differences between them (other than the LiDE being about $40 more and physically smaller)?

Slim

by **eliminator** on Wed Nov 26, 2003 8:02 pm

5000f can scan slides & is different technology based, see here:

http://www.usa.canon.com/html/conCprCat ... tion=10200

lide80 :Scanning Element Contact Image Sensor (CIS)
Light Source Three-color RGB LEDs

500f :Scanning Element Charge-Coupled Device (CCD)
Light Source Cold Cathode Fluorescent Lamp

by **ruderacer** on Wed Nov 26, 2003 8:27 pm

I went to Best Buy to buy it but they ran out. I'll look online to see if I can find it. At the store they recommended the Epson 1670. I don't know much about it so I'll keep looking. Till then.

by **CowboySlim** on Wed Nov 26, 2003 8:36 pm

Thanks, eliminator. I'd looked at that Canon info earlier, but didn't pick up on the difference.

As see on TV (Columbo), just one more thing: Which do you think is better, if either, for scanning photos?

Slim

by **eliminator** on Wed Nov 26, 2003 9:52 pm

Well, if you don't care for size, ccd is considered better quality (5000f), but i went for the lide80 size - this is also the first high quality rbg/cis scanner on the market.

by **eliminator** on Wed Nov 26, 2003 9:52 pm

ruderacer wrote:I went to Best Buy to buy it but they ran out. I'll look online to see if I can find it. At the store they recommended the Epson 1670. I don't know much about it so I'll keep looking. Till then.

Check Fry's if u got one locally...

by **CowboySlim** on Wed Nov 26, 2003 9:54 pm

OK, Thanks

by **ruderacer** on Wed Nov 26, 2003 10:04 pm

Guys, I found it at www.nutrend.com for 114.00 plus 6.00 for shipping and at www.newegg.com for 120.00 no shipping fees. Till Then

by **oslik2** on Thu Nov 27, 2003 1:49 am

check out buy.com: $113 with free shipping !

http://www.buy.com/retail/product.asp?s ... c=101&sp=1

buy.com has good return policy too.

by **oslik2** on Thu Nov 27, 2003 1:55 am

eliminator :

have you ever scanned negatives with your 5000F ?
i just did and negative scans look noticably colder/bluer than scans of the prints from the same negative.

by **ruderacer** on Thu Nov 27, 2003 4:24 am

Hey oslik2, I just check their site but is down for upgrades. Will check friday and thanks for the tip. Happy Turkey Day to all.

by **eliminator** on Thu Nov 27, 2003 8:55 pm

oslik2 wrote:eliminator :

have you ever scanned negatives with your 5000F ?
i just did and negative scans look noticably colder/bluer than scans of the prints from the same negative.

nope, did not use the feature, sorry.

by **MediumRare** on Fri Nov 28, 2003 5:41 pm

CowboySlim wrote:What are the functional differences between them (other than the LiDE being about $40 more and physically smaller)?

One thing to remember with the CIS scanners (e.g. the LIDEs) is that the depth of field is very small- if you scan books or magazines, you may run into problems. The more conventional scanners have a depth of field of 2 cm or more.

ruderacer wrote:At the store they recommended the Epson 1670.

Incidentally, the Epson 1670 scored very well in a test in the German computer magazine c't (No. 23). The slide/negative option is apparently quite useable too (they're usually rather critical on this aspect).

G

by **cfitz** on Fri Nov 28, 2003 9:01 pm

MediumRare wrote:One thing to remember with the CIS scanners (e.g. the LIDEs) is that the depth of field is very small- if you scan books or magazines, you may run into problems. The more conventional scanners have a depth of field of 2 cm or more.

Good to know. Thanks MediumRare.

MediumRare wrote:the Epson 1670 ... slide/negative option is apparently quite useable too (they're usually rather critical on this aspect).

Did they have anything to say about the 5000F in this regard?

cfitz

by **MediumRare** on Sun Nov 30, 2003 5:07 pm

cfitz wrote:Did they have anything to say about the 5000F in this regard?

Sorry, they haven't tested the Canon 5000F. The latest test was on "budget" scanners for < 100 Euro, including the Canon 3200F. It had lackluster performance for transparencies- faded colours and unsharp details.

An earlier test (issue no. 12) was focused on scanning transparencies. In addition to specialized film scanners, they checked the Canon 9900F and Epson 3200 Photo, both of which have a nominal resolution of 3200 dpi and only managed about 1200 dpi net for transparencies (the film scanners came significantly closer to their rated resolution). The Epson managed greater densities and was the best of the "all purpose" scanners.

Issue 6, finally, had a test including the Canon 8000F (and the Epson 3200 Photo). It produced a magenta tone for white subjects and had somewhat touchy software.

If you're interested, I can mail you the article in no. 12 and no. 6 (they're in German though).

G

by **cfitz** on Tue Dec 02, 2003 2:22 am

MediumRare wrote:If you're interested, I can mail you the article in no. 12 and no. 6 (they're in German though).

Thanks for the offer, MediumRare. I don't think it will do me much good since I don't read German, but if it isn't any trouble to email it, I wouldn't mind taking a look at it. Send me a PM if you need my email address.

By the way, I've also read a number of user comments from people who tried both the Canon 5000F and the Epson 1670 for slide/negative scanning, and they reached the opposite conclusion - favoring the 5000F. These things are never clear-cut.

Too bad I can't bring them both home and test them for a while before deciding which, if either, to buy.

cfitz

by **UALOneKPlus** on Tue Dec 02, 2003 6:46 am

Any recommendation on the FASTEST scanner?

I usually scan at 200DPI, to archive documents and such. I hate how most scanners take forever to scan documents.

What's the fastest and most efficient scanner under $150?

by **eliminator** on Tue Dec 02, 2003 8:26 pm

lide 80 $149 currently @ Fry,s... also the smallest !
5000F $129 ... check Canon wsite on different speeds...

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