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NEC 2500A Burns in less than 9 min. WOW

Postby flash on Wed Feb 11, 2004 7:40 pm

My new NEC 2500A arrived today. I backed up a movie using DVD XCopy Express and watched as the actual burn time was less than 9 minutes using Imation 4X DVD+R media. WOW :o
My A06 would normally take 15 to 20 minutes to perform the same action
on the same media. I don't know if this is going to be normal but so far
I'm very impressed.
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Postby Raz0rX on Wed Feb 11, 2004 8:23 pm

Hey did you burnt your Imation disc @ 8x? Do you know the manufacture ID for your Imation disc?

I saw some near my workplace, but haven't try any yet.
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Postby aviationwiz on Wed Feb 11, 2004 8:26 pm

Theoretically, shouldn't the A06 have taken 25-30 min. for the same action, considering it is 2.4x. 15 min. sounds like 4x.
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Postby flash on Wed Feb 11, 2004 8:35 pm

I agree Aviationwiz. Ocasionally my Pioneer A06 could burn movies around 15 min. I honestly can't say I timed everything I've burnt but I can say that with different types of media the Pioneer was normally in excess of 15 mins using DVDXCX. With the first try watching the NEC 2500A (I just had to sit and watch to see if I noticed a time diffrence), I watched Xcopy Express finish the burning process at 8 mins. and some change using Imation 4X media I purchased at Office Max. $9.95 for 25 spindle (After rebates).
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Postby dodecahedron on Wed Feb 11, 2004 9:20 pm

aviationwiz wrote:Theoretically, shouldn't the A06 have taken 25-30 min. for the same action, considering it is 2.4x. 15 min. sounds like 4x.

well, flash said it was 4x DVD+R media.
so it supposed to burn at 4x, and take about 15 minutes. perfectly normal i should think.

now if on the NEC it took less than 9 minutes, doesn't this mean that the NEC burnt it at 8x (ZCLV)?

timing seems right to me.
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Postby aviationwiz on Wed Feb 11, 2004 9:30 pm

dodecahedron wrote:
aviationwiz wrote:Theoretically, shouldn't the A06 have taken 25-30 min. for the same action, considering it is 2.4x. 15 min. sounds like 4x.

well, flash said it was 4x DVD+R media.
so it supposed to burn at 4x, and take about 15 minutes. perfectly normal i should think.

now if on the NEC it took less than 9 minutes, doesn't this mean that the NEC burnt it at 8x (ZCLV)?

timing seems right to me.


Whopps, my bad there, sorry. The A06 drive does write to DVD+R at 4x, I thought it was only 2.4x. I think I got in confused with DVD+RW, which IS 2.4x.
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Postby flash on Wed Feb 11, 2004 9:36 pm

I'm just SOOOO geeked it's burning 4X media at 8X speeds :D
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Postby rdgrimes on Wed Feb 11, 2004 9:37 pm

the Imation should be Ricoh R-01, which burns at 6x in the 2500 burner, it takes about 10:30 to burn 4.4GB at 6x in the 2500. (starts out at 4x)
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Postby hoxlund on Wed Feb 11, 2004 10:09 pm

great results flash, now we need you to get away from the dvdxcopy software you'll be all set, take my advice: from one wisconsin person to another
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Postby flash on Thu Feb 12, 2004 12:08 am

To rdgrimes, I downloaded DVDinfo Pro and it states that the disc code is
RICOHJPNR01 and the write descripter is CAV 5.9x 8112KBps.

To Hoxlund, let me know what I should be using because the only reason I've been using Xcopy is because I have several friends utilizing the same
program and it's ease of use. I've read there are serveral free programs to use I just don't know what the benfits are. I am always open too learning new and better ways of doing things. Please enlighten me :)
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Postby NoSmartz on Thu Feb 12, 2004 11:20 am

flash Why don't you watch that movie you back't up all the way through and check for artifacting or pixelating.I tried with the same media at 8x and on every disc I got artifacting and pixelating all through it.At 4x,perfect.

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Postby flash on Thu Feb 12, 2004 1:12 pm

We watched the movie last night and it played perfect. I'm pretty harsh about movie quality especially that I've had so many issues with my drivers causing pixelation throughout movies I've burned.
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Postby NoSmartz on Thu Feb 12, 2004 1:45 pm

excellent

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Postby BMR on Thu Feb 12, 2004 2:13 pm

flash wrote:To rdgrimes, I downloaded DVDinfo Pro and it states that the disc code is
RICOHJPNR01 and the write descripter is CAV 5.9x 8112KBps.

To Hoxlund, let me know what I should be using because the only reason I've been using Xcopy is because I have several friends utilizing the same
program and it's ease of use. I've read there are serveral free programs to use I just don't know what the benfits are. I am always open too learning new and better ways of doing things. Please enlighten me :)


Use DVDShrink 3.15 with deep analysis and Nero to burn the disk. Fabulous results and no stupid warnings. As well, Dvd xcopy embeds within the dvd you burn, your computer's information, so that if you copy that disk and give it to someone else, you can be traced. ( Gota love that eh !! )

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Postby rdgrimes on Thu Feb 12, 2004 2:56 pm

Dvd xcopy embeds within the dvd you burn, your computer's information, so that if you copy that disk and give it to someone else, you can be traced

Don't look now, but many burner manufacturers are implementing a drive serial stamp that goes on every disc burned, which will make it possible to match any disc burned with the drive that burned it. There are little reading utilities put out by the drive makers that read this info off the disc.
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Postby hoxlund on Thu Feb 12, 2004 3:39 pm

my recommendation, use dvd shrink and nero, or dvdFab, or nero recode 2

ive heard that dvdxcopy makes it so you can't copy a copy, and that tracking thing would totally piss me off
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Postby Infinity on Thu Feb 12, 2004 6:35 pm

I've been out of the dvd transcoding software for awhile. How does the latest version of DVD Shrink compare to DVD2One (regarding picture quality)?
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Postby hoxlund on Thu Feb 12, 2004 6:42 pm

in my honost opinion, its always been the best for ease of use and freeware

i mostly use nero recode 2 and just burn on the fly, 13 minutes for a full backup, from the time i put in the dvd-r to finalizing complete
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Postby thegdog on Thu Feb 12, 2004 7:55 pm

Infinity wrote:I've been out of the dvd transcoding software for awhile. How does the latest version of DVD Shrink compare to DVD2One (regarding picture quality)?

IMO, DVD Shrink's quality is better than DVD2One's. However, this was based on older versions of DVD2One. I haven't used DVD2One in quite a while, to be honest.

All I use now is DVD Shrink and Recode 2.
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Postby flash on Thu Feb 12, 2004 10:46 pm

OK. I downloaded DVD shrink 3.1. Next you guys say to use Nero.
Will Nero 5.5 work? If so where is a good place on a simple step by step process? I found a good tutorial for DVDShrink but what about the Nero steps? Sorry if this is asking too many simple questions.
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Postby hoxlund on Thu Feb 12, 2004 11:00 pm

when i say use nero, i mean nero recode 2, which is part of nero 6 ultra pack

for dvdshrink guides go here:

http://www.dvdshrink.info/guides.php
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Postby flash on Fri Feb 13, 2004 12:45 pm

Hoxlund
my recommendation, use dvd shrink and nero, or dvdFab, or nero recode 2

Am I missing something or am I just being a tree stump. DVD shrink allows me to take out the junk and allows me to reduce the amount of data so I can fit it on a standard DVDR? And Nero Ver. ?? is the program I am supposed to use to burn the data to the DVDR? :o
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Postby BMR on Fri Feb 13, 2004 1:01 pm

flash wrote:Hoxlund
my recommendation, use dvd shrink and nero, or dvdFab, or nero recode 2

Am I missing something or am I just being a tree stump. DVD shrink allows me to take out the junk and allows me to reduce the amount of data so I can fit it on a standard DVDR? And Nero Ver. ?? is the program I am supposed to use to burn the data to the DVDR? :o
Thanks again for any help.


Correct !!!

The newest version of dvdshrink is designed to interface with Nero , so that you can do the transcoding of the movie and burning at the same time and just walk away if you have both a writer and a reader.

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Postby hoxlund on Sat Feb 14, 2004 11:59 am

yes and no, nero recode 2 is a dvd burning program specifically made for dvd movie copying, as long as you have dvd region free to get rid of the CSS protection it will "burn at once" meaning again if you have a dvd reader and dvd burner it will immediatly on the fly burn without touching the hard drive

so from the time you hit the go button to the disc finalize it takes me 13 minutes to copy a full dvd movie, that includes compression and what not
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