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Postby konsolen on Tue May 11, 2004 12:55 pm

on firmware-flash.com you can download the nec´2510 firm!

works on the 2500!
but no dvd+r dl to test!
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Postby Ian on Tue May 11, 2004 2:04 pm

Interesting.. Is this a hack or an official upgrade?
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Postby Ian on Tue May 11, 2004 2:12 pm

The Dangerous Brothers have it on their website:

http://tdb.rpc1.org

Direct link to files:

http://tdb.rpc1.org/firmware/2510A.ZIP

I wish I had a NEC ND-2500A right about now.
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Postby thegdog on Tue May 11, 2004 2:24 pm

Ian wrote:The Dangerous Brothers have it on their website:

http://tdb.rpc1.org

I didn't see it on that page. Wonder if they took it down.

I downloaded it from your link, and wondering what the "fast" firmware is.
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Postby code65536 on Tue May 11, 2004 2:36 pm

It's not on their page b/c they haven't gotten around to updating it yet.

As for your question regarding the "fast" version...

The Dangerous Brothers wrote:2510ORIG.BIN your original binary as supplied
2510FAST.BIN 2100@2500 and Rip Lock Patches
2510RPC1.BIN RPC1, 2100@2500 and Rip Lock Patches

2100@2500 allows the firmware to work on a 2100A drive if you have one

Rip Lock removes the speed locks on single and dual layer DVD-ROM discs with a VIDEO_TS directory.

RPC1 removes region state handling commands and checks.

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Postby thegdog on Tue May 11, 2004 2:37 pm

code65536 wrote:
The Dangerous Brothers wrote:2510ORIG.BIN your original binary as supplied
2510FAST.BIN 2100@2500 and Rip Lock Patches
2510RPC1.BIN RPC1, 2100@2500 and Rip Lock Patches

2100@2500 allows the firmware to work on a 2100A drive if you have one

Rip Lock removes the speed locks on single and dual layer DVD-ROM discs with a VIDEO_TS directory.

RPC1 removes region state handling commands and checks.

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Cool, thanks for the info!

Wonder why they removed it from their page.
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Postby code65536 on Tue May 11, 2004 4:50 pm

thegdog wrote:Wonder why they removed it from their page.


I already answered that. Read my other post carefully. ;)
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Postby thegdog on Tue May 11, 2004 4:53 pm

code65536 wrote:
thegdog wrote:Wonder why they removed it from their page.


I already answered that. Read my other post carefully. ;)

Well, sheesh, how am I supposed to find that when its the first sentence in your post? I always skip to the end where the good info is. ;)
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Postby LoneWolf on Tue May 11, 2004 5:42 pm

Ian wrote:The Dangerous Brothers have it on their website:

http://tdb.rpc1.org

Direct link to files:

http://tdb.rpc1.org/firmware/2510A.ZIP

I wish I had a NEC ND-2500A right about now.


I wish I had dual layer discs to test this with, is what I wish.
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Postby shimman on Tue May 11, 2004 8:54 pm

as i hoped, it is very likely that both 2500a & 812s could be dl burners. i hope pioneer's firmware of next burner which will come out sometime in july 2004 allows to convert 107d to dl buners for both + & -
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Postby Boba_Fett on Tue May 11, 2004 10:26 pm

Kick Ass! Ian, get a freakin ND-2500a and test this out already :D
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Postby dhc014 on Tue May 11, 2004 10:45 pm

It has been confirmed to work by cdrinfo.com. There's no need for Ian to waste and of his DVD+R9's

Ian has a couple of 2500A's, but they're probably not installed or maybe even returned to their manufacturers already.

The AOpen DRW8800/AAN 8x and the TDK Indi DVD 880N 8x are both 2500A's.
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Postby dolphinius_rex on Tue May 11, 2004 11:54 pm

shimman wrote:as i hoped, it is very likely that both 2500a & 812s could be dl burners. i hope pioneer's firmware of next burner which will come out sometime in july 2004 allows to convert 107d to dl buners for both + & -


Keep dreaming my good man... it's NOT going to happen with the Pioneer. Also, there appear to be two different LiteON 812s drives, one with a compatible chipset for upgrading, and one without. We shall see what happens though.
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Postby Vanderlow on Wed May 12, 2004 12:46 am

There is talk that it might only ge good on a % of the burners due to a higher quality parts needed in order to do a good DL burn. We'll it will be interesting.
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Postby code65536 on Wed May 12, 2004 1:13 am

dolphinius_rex wrote:Also, there appear to be two different LiteON 812s drives


Huh? I have to admit, this is the first that I've heard of this... where did you get this from?
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Postby dhc014 on Wed May 12, 2004 1:38 am

Looks like you found it in the cdrinfo forum
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Postby dolphinius_rex on Wed May 12, 2004 2:23 am

dhc014 wrote:Looks like you found it in the cdrinfo forum


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Postby code65536 on Wed May 12, 2004 3:37 am

dolphinius_rex wrote:
dhc014 wrote:Looks like you found it in the cdrinfo forum


Yup.


Then you can see from my reply there that I'm a bit skeptical... a different non-mtk chipset? Is that even possible without forcing LiteOn to write a totally different firmware?
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Postby carl on Wed May 12, 2004 6:43 am

code65536 wrote:
dolphinius_rex wrote:
dhc014 wrote:Looks like you found it in the cdrinfo forum


Yup.


Then you can see from my reply there that I'm a bit skeptical... a different non-mtk chipset? Is that even possible without forcing LiteOn to write a totally different firmware?


All 812's have MTK chipsets. Code is correct, if they did not then there would be two different firmware versions.
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Postby konsolen on Wed May 12, 2004 9:56 am

at cdrinfo.com is a test with the 2500@2510 and a DL Disc!!
it works!!or it burns!!
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Postby dolphinius_rex on Wed May 12, 2004 10:30 am

code65536 wrote:
dolphinius_rex wrote:
dhc014 wrote:Looks like you found it in the cdrinfo forum


Yup.


Then you can see from my reply there that I'm a bit skeptical... a different non-mtk chipset? Is that even possible without forcing LiteOn to write a totally different firmware?


If you read the thread, they both have MTK chipsets, just not the same ones.
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Postby Ian on Wed May 12, 2004 10:30 am

It's possible that some 812's use different components (PUH's, etc). It wouldn't be the first time a drive manufacturer has done something like this.
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Postby code65536 on Wed May 12, 2004 10:58 am

dolphinius_rex wrote:If you read the thread, they both have MTK chipsets, just not the same ones.


*reads more carefully* :oops: Admittedly, it was a somewhat convoluted thread, so that first post was what caught most of my attention...
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Postby LoneWolf on Wed May 12, 2004 12:08 pm

dhc014 wrote:It has been confirmed to work by cdrinfo.com. There's no need for Ian to waste and of his DVD+R9's

Ian has a couple of 2500A's, but they're probably not installed or maybe even returned to their manufacturers already.

The AOpen DRW8800/AAN 8x and the TDK Indi DVD 880N 8x are both 2500A's.


A famous writer once said that one swallow doth not make a summer.

One 2500A running as a 2510 does not mean that all of them will work. It just means that one had a good enough quality pickup to do the job. Kind of like a year back when a number of ATI Radeon 9500NP cards could be converted to Radeon 9700 cards with a bit of modding. Perhaps a third of them worked this way, but the remaining two thirds didn't because not all GPU chips had fully functional graphics pipelines that the modification required. A lot of users got artifacting and wierd problems.

Running a 2500A as a 2510 may still be a hit-or-miss thing. I'll reserve judgement until there's a reasonable supply of dual layer media that allows more people to test.
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Postby Ian on Wed May 12, 2004 12:42 pm

NECis known for using various parts in their drives. The ND-1300 comes to mind in particular. If I remember right, there were three different versions of the drive, with two different firmware versions. :x
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