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Ricoh Launches The World’s First 16x DVD+R DL Disc

Postby Ian on Thu Mar 08, 2007 6:29 pm

Wow.. the media manufacturers are ahead of the drive manufacturers for once.

http://www.justnow-press.de/showPrArtic ... nguageID=2

With its recently launched 16x DVD+R Double Layer, Ricoh has significantly raised the standards for fast DL blank discs. At the same time this milestone has once again revealed the company’s high level of technical competency in the field of innovative high-speed media development. This is confirmed by the certificate issued by the Verification Laboratories Group which sets the official standards for the new Double Layer DVD+R media with write speeds of up to 16x. Delivery of the first samples for hardware manufacturers started on 7th March 2007.

The market for DVD+R double layer blank discs more than doubled last year and the boom in demand has continued unabated. Compared with single layer discs, however, double layer media have hitherto required considerable time to write their large volume of storage space. With the development of the first 16x DVD+R DL Ricoh has now radically increased writing speed while at the same time significantly reducing the writing time for the medium. This technological innovation once again confirms Ricoh’s position at the forefront of the development of high-precision double layer production technologies.

The “Inverted Stack Method” invented by Ricoh is already regarded as the best possible technique for the attainment of high recording speeds in high-precision DVD+R DL media production. This Ricoh production method differs considerably from the “2P method” in which all layers are stacked on a single substrate. Separate production of both recording layers as practised by Ricoh, initially takes place separately on both substrates. The two components are then pressed together. Thus in practice Ricoh’s “Inverted Stack Method” provides increased precision for both recording layers.

To ensure the high writing speed of 16x for the DVD, the medium must have exceptional mechanical properties. Thus the extremely precise groove formation of the Ricoh blank disc not only has a decisive influence on correct tracking but it also serves to completely avoid distortion. However not only were improvements made to eccentricity and production tool precision but newly developed recording materials were also deployed.
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Postby roadrunner on Thu Mar 08, 2007 7:12 pm

Wow is right! If the quality is good, I'm all over that!
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Postby [buck] on Thu Mar 08, 2007 11:21 pm

The next question is, when will the 16X DVD+RDL drives show up, and do (or will) existing drives even have firmware support for this media?

Can't say I'm too excited. Speed really doesn't matter to me, but QUALITY does. And in this regard, Ricoh is usually lacking.
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Postby evilboy on Fri Mar 09, 2007 11:21 am

Hub codes don't look like Ritek. Could it be that those are MIJ?
Maybe the MIJ Ricoh is better, but I don't really know as I don't see much Ricoh media here. :)
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Postby dolphinius_rex on Fri Mar 09, 2007 12:40 pm

There is no doubt that this would be a MIJ disc... but the question is whether mass produced product would be MIJ? I kind of doubt it!
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Postby [buck] on Fri Mar 09, 2007 1:28 pm

Oh, the PR photo disc is definitely MIJ. But anyone who thinks the mass produced product will be MIJ is dreaming!

Has anyone else noticed that the PR photo has a big air bubble? :lol:
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Postby evilboy on Fri Mar 09, 2007 2:39 pm

Yes, but I'm pretty much used to it. Quite a few of my Prodisc MCC 004 have that. :evil:
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Postby Wesociety on Fri Mar 09, 2007 2:57 pm

I was told about DVD+R DL 16x development awhile ago.
http://wesleytech.com/16x-double-layer- ... he-way/49/

But I'm surprised that Ricoh beat Verbatim to the punch!!!
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Postby Scour on Fri Mar 09, 2007 7:02 pm

Hope it´s soon avaible :)
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Postby dolphinius_rex on Fri Mar 09, 2007 7:38 pm

Scour wrote:Hope it´s soon avaible :)


What would you do with it? :P
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Postby Wesociety on Sat Mar 10, 2007 1:19 pm

dolphinius_rex wrote:
Scour wrote:Hope it´s soon avaible :)


What would you do with it? :P


Hmm, good point. But remember, there's always the possibility of screwing around with a firmware hack or MediaCodeSpeedEdit tool.
Not saying it would turn out well, but it might be a fun experiment. :D
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Postby Scour on Mon Mar 12, 2007 6:15 pm

dolphinius_rex wrote:
Scour wrote:Hope it´s soon avaible :)


What would you do with it? :P


I will increase the voltage to push my 1640 to 16x DL :P
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Postby RJW on Tue Mar 13, 2007 6:09 pm

evilboy wrote:Hub codes don't look like Ritek. Could it be that those are MIJ?
Maybe the MIJ Ricoh is better, but I don't really know as I don't see much Ricoh media here. :)


Don't judge on the Ritek/MBIL stuff. Because so far the results for the japanese ricoh dual layer media that I've seen were nice. Only problem is that it seems quite hard to get this media myself.

Good change that the first batches are going to be made by ricoh themselves after that Ritek is probably going to make the majority.
Except for the odd stuff.
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Postby Wesociety on Wed Mar 14, 2007 1:08 pm

I emailed a friend of mine that lives in Japan and asked about the availability of MIJ Ricoh DVD+R DL discs there.

My friend said that he has seen them available in some shops, but even though the MIJ RICOH is available there, the Verbatim DVD+R DL (all MIS) is still preferred and supposed to be better media.
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Postby Scour on Wed Mar 14, 2007 4:41 pm

The good old Verbatim DVD+R DL 2,4x is still the media with best compatibility of all DL-media
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