16x DVD-RAM Cannot Be Rewritten As Frequent As Old Media?

[Ian]

I saw this "update" over at heise de:

http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/63548

The new High speed DVD RAM media cannot be as frequently overwritten as the older versions. Goods media for 1X, 2X and 3X still for 100.000 overwriting procedures specified, are it with the 5X and 16X-Medien "only" 10,000 overwriting procedures

Only 10,000 times.. its still better than -RW and +RW though.

[Scour]

Hello!

If the DVD-RAM was not in a cartridge I´m sure the media will be defect because of dirt and scratches, not because it´s only 10000-times rewritable.

[dodecahedron]

oh, i don't know, i keep very good care of my dicsc.

however this whole 100,000 or 10,000 vs. 1000...i'm not so sure about it.
100,000 rewrites where? the whole disc? a table of contents?
if a DVD-RAM disc is FAT32 then the portion of the disc where the FAT is gets rewritten a lot!

[Ian]

I'm betting its due to the stress from the higher rotation speeds. Dirt and scratches would have an effect, but not any more than normal DVD-RAM media.

When they say 100,000, I believe that is write/erase cycles.

[Scour]

I'm betting its due to the stress from the higher rotation speeds. Dirt and scratches would have an effect, but not any more than normal DVD-RAM media.

I meant that you have killed the DVD-RAm because of scratches/dirt before you have made 10000 cycles. Or you never put it outside the drive

[Ian]

I meant that you have killed the DVD-RAm because of scratches/dirt before you have made 10000 cycles. Or you never put it outside the drive

lol.. good point. I don't think anyone has ever reached 10,000.. let alone 100,000.

[dodecahedron]

When they say 100,000, I believe that is write/erase cycles.

and what exactly is a write/erase cycle ?
an erase of the entire disc? i doubt it, that doesn't happen very often i would think. once the disc is formatted you use it like a HD. how often to do format that ?
if you rewrite a portion of the dics is that considered a write/erase cycle?